Paris Beheading

[Everhelpful]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8848509/Gunman-shouting-Allahu-Akbar-BEHEADS-man-northern-Paris-shot-police.html

[bednobs]

btw i know my answer about 40 year olds being better at sex was flippant but this really is an horrific story which i completely depolre

[jno]

PP, I think the raisins are seen as a metaphor for all you can eat

[ABSpareEditor]

Please do not disrupt a thread by discussing why it is or isn't in a certain category.

[Peter Pedant]

I think this is a good URL
https://www.justislam.co.uk/does-the-quran-really-promise-islamic-martyrs-virgins-p-216.html

the context might fit raisin - BUT islam forbids wine otherwise.
The arabic is not quoted.
good bit at the top: "la-eesit al ilm bihi...." and if you have no knowlege ( then dont discuss it)
AB wd be a bit blank innit?

The French have a stronger sense of church state separation - (laicete) and have come out strongly on the side of M Paty

[allenlondon]

Whatever you do, don't turn this thread into another anti-ISLAMIC one.

The vast majority of Moslems will see this savage act as having NOTHING to do with Islam, but EVERYTHING to do with madness, lunacy, idiocy.

Do not forget our own 'Christian' history of persecution, torture, burnings, hangings/drawings/quarterings, which went on up to only a couple hundred years ago.

Condemn lunacy. Do not condemn Islam.

A

[Sqad]

What a stupid topic to teach to children in this era of Islamic sensitivity. He didn't deserve to be beheaded but it wasn't a wise thing to caricature the Islamic Prophet.

[royfromaus]

I will and do condemn Islam.

[Peter Pedant]

// The Google translation of the quote from PP does not mention a "concentration camp".//

er OK - I didnt expect anyone to read it - and I put a free thinking summary of 6 words at the end.

probably have grounds to arrest in England ( suspicion of aiding and abetting or conspiracy .... ) and yes both countries have not had internment camps for 75 y ( actually that is not true is it?)

[royfromaus]

Here's an idea sqad

if someone draws a picture you don't like, condemn it, express your disapproval...but not by chopping off the artist's head.

Makes sense to me.

[anneasquith]

Dreadful incident. I do agree with allenlondon on this .

[andy-hughes]

roy - // I will and do condemn Islam. //

Care to expand on that?

[Peter Pedant]

// He didn't deserve to be beheaded but it wasn't a wise thing to caricature the Islamic Prophet.//

that appeared to the thesis ( ou thèse ) of the lady on R4 yesterday and to my mind was an interesting reference to the interaction of free speech and censorship [ god this sounds a bit poncy]

much wider terms for free speech but then one must control ones feelings so as not to disturb feeling of others
so - - no sharly ebdo
and in america the land of the free - no one will buy and show the new spitting image for fear it will insult trump
( as the makers said - that was the whole idea)

luckily readers - see above we dont have any of this free speech carp on AB !

[naomi24]

//I will and do condemn Islam. //

Me too.

[Sqad]

roy......good point and I didn't see the picture or was I at the lesson,but from what I gather,it was taking the p..s out of the Prophet......not a wise thing to do I'm sure that you will agree.

[ToraToraTora]

so we are all agreed Islam is the fluffy bunny religion of peace! Right oh!

[Peter Pedant]

// roy - // I will and do condemn Islam. //
Care to expand on that?

quality comment Woy - dont go for quantity like SOME do

[AuntPollyGrey]

Sqad The French teacher did not draw the caricatures. Info here if you can be bothered:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_cartoons_controversy

He was using them as a tool to discuss free speech and the aftermath of the publication of these cartoons, which resulted in many deaths. He even advised those pupils who were Muslim and felt they would be offended to leave the classroom if they felt uncomfortable.

[anneasquith]

Now you are being ridiculous ttt.

[ichkeria]

“ Whatever you do, don't turn this thread into another anti-ISLAMIC one.“

Good luck with that :-)

[allenlondon]

You foolish ones. Do you also condemn Christianity, too?

Or any other religion where the lunatic fringe disgraces the central teaching?