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Bobbisox1 | 18:42 Tue 10th Nov 2020 | News
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The Chairman of the FA has resigned after making two bad comments
He referred to coloured players as black?
And said being Gay was a lifestyle choice
What has he done to create the anti race lobby to go into meltdown by saying it was racist calling a coloured player Black when the coloured people themselves created BLACK LIVES MATTER
On the second remark, I agree he's bang out of order to suggest being Gay is a lifestyle choice, it isn't !!!

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I know Mozz
>>> I don't even know what WOKE means

The Sun wouldn't normally be the first source I'd turn to for accurate information but this is actually quite well-written:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10760207/woke-meaning-definition/
Bobbi - // Chris I am anything but racist but I really don't see this as such a massive big deal //

In the bigger scheme of things, it's not a massive big deal, but this is the FA we're talking about.

Football as a culture, and therefore under the leadership of the FA, is an organisation that is the utter epitome of a racist sexist and homophobic brotherhood.

Of course, it is trying to change, very slowly but I am sure you can recall, as I can, the times when the first black player played for a national team, and that was news.

In what other organisation would a person's skin colour generate a news item like that? It shouldn't be even a matter for comment, but for football, it was a big deal, and news, because football is about as racist an organisation as it's possible to be.

We can park the homophobia that is still utterly rampant in football in 2020, simply by pausing for a moment, and asking ourselves how many Premier League players are out as gay? Not how many are gay, because the simply law of numbers says there are some - but how many have ever come out and said so publicly?

Back to the race issue then.

To its credit, the FA has invested millions of pounds in addressing in the intractable racism that is in football's DNA - and it is making progress, slowly, but progress is there.

And more importantly, the FA makes a massive noise on a regular basis about just how much it s trying to address racism - it comes up all the time - look at Ron Atkinson, respected pundit, booted into obscurity for an off-mic remark about a black player that was picked up anyway.

So you have an organization investing millions in tying to alter mindsets about prehistoric attitudes to the colour of a player's skin, and making a massive noise about it on a daily basis and then ...

the leader of the organisation, the guy at the top, the place where the proverbial buck stops, whom you would think you could rely on to set an example - uses a term like 'coloured' to refer to a black player.

THAT is why it is such a big deal.
Not sure what it means myself tbh, that's why I put it in inverted commas! Something to do with being pc and watching what you say - not sure it was like that in the 1980's!
I tell you one thing, if they hire a BAME replacement for chairman, he's going to be on a hiding to nothing from some areas.
^ that to chris.
I thought he was in
"I call a spad a spade mode" - (even that of course is unacceptable)

and it just didnt come off right

compare Marcus Rashford ( my fave!) knows what he wants ( free din dins for the kiddies ) and how to go about getting it
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Oh Gosh, BAME & WOKE , I must do some homework
PP - // I thought he was in
"I call a spad a spade mode" - (even that of course is unacceptable)

and it just didnt come off right //

When you are chair of the FA, saying things that 'don't come off right' is a luxury you cannot afford, nor is it afforded to you.
but how many have ever come out and said so publicly?
gay footballers

three I think ( includes Fashanu who committed suicide)
and the average should be 10%

and in rugby there is only the big fella - and joe marler doesnt count
Woke is just another term the usual suspects use to describe those of us who are more Liberal than they are. File it alongside "virtual signalling".
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Thanks Mozz this decade has thrown up a lot of new words
>>> File it alongside "virtual signalling"

Methinks Mozz means 'virtue signalling'. (Either that or it's got something to do with keep trains moving!)
o god Andy stab delete mode then
my model was the divine oscar - a man who calls a spade a spade should learn how to use one
the divine oscar being an old boy of Portora - you will instantly identify as northern irish protestant
and spade being the implement the irish used in farming by the hem hem lower classes

trust you to highlight a meaning of the seventies

I mean while contemplated Esperanza - wilde's mother who was a society hostess and wrote under that pseudonym - and then his father eminent ENT surgeon who described the wilde incision for mastoid surgery ( sqad will know)

I float on an altogether higher plane
'Virtue signalling' e.g. wearing a poppy?
Thanks Chris. I missed that completely, I'll blame autocorrect (but I may well have beeen responsible!)
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Atheist , Nooo pleasesssss
Bobbi; well. it seems to fit the usual definition of showing off that I care about something.
"People of colour" and a "coloured person" mean exactly the same thing. English puts an adjective before the noun, wheras French puts it afterwards. A green apple, un pomme vert means the same thing
nuvva new word for you
virtue signalling in NT Greek is ophthalmo-doolie
yes they had a little space for the word. from Liddell

ὀφθαλμο-δουλεία , ἡ,
A.eye-service, Ep.Eph.6.6: in pl., Ep.Col.3.22.

and it looks as tho that is Ephesians 6 - 6
which is
Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ,

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