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I totally agree its awful the things this man said in his speech to MPs. I know alot of the phrases are grossly offensive and outdated. But one phrase he was critisised for I dont get why its insulting and thats calling someone from South Asia 'South Asian' Is it then racially offensive to call British people Brits or French people French?
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HK - // I dont get why its insulting and thats calling someone from South Asia 'South Asian' //
As I pointed on the parallel thread about this issue - it's not about the terms and language used, it's about the context in which they are used.
Referring to someone as South Asian is not insulting - lumping them together as a cultural entity in order to disparage them, is.
As I pointed on the parallel thread about this issue - it's not about the terms and language used, it's about the context in which they are used.
Referring to someone as South Asian is not insulting - lumping them together as a cultural entity in order to disparage them, is.
retrocop - // I reckon your friends are also quite intelligent enough not to find or look for offence when none was intended.! //
That is a fair point, but there is a world of difference between people who know HK as an individual, and accept that any offence would be entirely regretted an unintentional, and the chairman of an organization that is mired in ongoing racism sexism and homophobia running off at the mouth because he hasn't taken his position seriously enough to bring himself, and his attitudes, out of the 1950's.
That is a fair point, but there is a world of difference between people who know HK as an individual, and accept that any offence would be entirely regretted an unintentional, and the chairman of an organization that is mired in ongoing racism sexism and homophobia running off at the mouth because he hasn't taken his position seriously enough to bring himself, and his attitudes, out of the 1950's.
I feel totally privileged as my life is drawing to a close.
I sit here, with the media social and otherwise talking and explaining about protocol that I cannot understand, that I have lived in the generation of which I understand.
I have just learned that there are no such entities has actresses, they are all actors. When did that come about?
Women are treated as equals, when did that come about?
Before football matches both teams " take the knee" whatever that is and what it represents.
No longer is there men and women, but gays,transvestites, body dysphormism.
Corporal punishment is abolished in schools so as to minimise future less violent societies.......
All this going on around sqad, as he sits and waits for his dinner and his wine to be decanted.
We live in confusing and turbulent times of which I am glad to be just an ageing and bewildered observer.
I sit here, with the media social and otherwise talking and explaining about protocol that I cannot understand, that I have lived in the generation of which I understand.
I have just learned that there are no such entities has actresses, they are all actors. When did that come about?
Women are treated as equals, when did that come about?
Before football matches both teams " take the knee" whatever that is and what it represents.
No longer is there men and women, but gays,transvestites, body dysphormism.
Corporal punishment is abolished in schools so as to minimise future less violent societies.......
All this going on around sqad, as he sits and waits for his dinner and his wine to be decanted.
We live in confusing and turbulent times of which I am glad to be just an ageing and bewildered observer.
bhg481 - // I care not one jot what language people use, so long as it's not intended to be deliberately offensive. To me, saying "The N word" is just as bad as using the word itself. //
The difficulty is, just because you (and I use the term generically, not aimed at you specifically) don't mean offence, doesn't mean that no offence is taken.
Thereby lies the danger of joining the individuals who positively revel in their utter absence of empathy and understanding of a viewpoint other than their own.
These people usually announce their presence with conversational gems such as "I believe in plain speaking ..." and a particular gem of my late father's, who could be chairman of the organisation, he always preceded his current ignorant and bigoted pronouncement with "Well, do you want to know what I think ..." as though the ensnared audience actually had a choice in the matter!!
But to be serious, and make a point - part of living in a society with others is a duty of awareness as caring human beings that what we say and what we do cannot be conducted in the notion of a vacuum - what we say and what we do impacts on those around us in all sorts of ways and degrees.
It's not good enough to go through life thinking - and this applies to all manner of words and actions - I don't understand it, and it doesn't mean anything to me, therefore I can ignore it and speak and act as though it doesn't matter to other people - because it does.
Obviously I have no truck with the 'woke' generation who waste inordinate amounts of time actively looking for things to take offence at, usually on behalf of other people - that is as unhelpful as idiots who simply don't take the time and trouble to care a little.
The way I see going through life is just to do your best with people.
You will get it wrong, everyone does, but be ready to admit your failing, and simply apologise and move on, safe in the knowledge that the majority of people are making similar allowances for your own personal quirks and foibles.
That's how we live together, in the middle, doing our best, not at the outer limits, being a royal pain.
The difficulty is, just because you (and I use the term generically, not aimed at you specifically) don't mean offence, doesn't mean that no offence is taken.
Thereby lies the danger of joining the individuals who positively revel in their utter absence of empathy and understanding of a viewpoint other than their own.
These people usually announce their presence with conversational gems such as "I believe in plain speaking ..." and a particular gem of my late father's, who could be chairman of the organisation, he always preceded his current ignorant and bigoted pronouncement with "Well, do you want to know what I think ..." as though the ensnared audience actually had a choice in the matter!!
But to be serious, and make a point - part of living in a society with others is a duty of awareness as caring human beings that what we say and what we do cannot be conducted in the notion of a vacuum - what we say and what we do impacts on those around us in all sorts of ways and degrees.
It's not good enough to go through life thinking - and this applies to all manner of words and actions - I don't understand it, and it doesn't mean anything to me, therefore I can ignore it and speak and act as though it doesn't matter to other people - because it does.
Obviously I have no truck with the 'woke' generation who waste inordinate amounts of time actively looking for things to take offence at, usually on behalf of other people - that is as unhelpful as idiots who simply don't take the time and trouble to care a little.
The way I see going through life is just to do your best with people.
You will get it wrong, everyone does, but be ready to admit your failing, and simply apologise and move on, safe in the knowledge that the majority of people are making similar allowances for your own personal quirks and foibles.
That's how we live together, in the middle, doing our best, not at the outer limits, being a royal pain.
//what we say and what we do impacts on those around us in all sorts of ways and degrees.//
What the ‘woke’ have said has certainly impacted on this man. He’s been pressured into resigning.
//safe in the knowledge that the majority of people are making similar allowances for your own personal quirks and foibles.//
Clearly the ‘woke’ aren’t making allowances at all - for anyone. It’s their way or no way… a dangerous path to follow.
What the ‘woke’ have said has certainly impacted on this man. He’s been pressured into resigning.
//safe in the knowledge that the majority of people are making similar allowances for your own personal quirks and foibles.//
Clearly the ‘woke’ aren’t making allowances at all - for anyone. It’s their way or no way… a dangerous path to follow.
naomi - // //what we say and what we do impacts on those around us in all sorts of ways and degrees.//
What the ‘woke’ have said has certainly impacted on this man. He’s been pressured into resigning.
//safe in the knowledge that the majority of people are making similar allowances for your own personal quirks and foibles.//
Clearly the ‘woke’ aren’t making allowances at all - for anyone. It’s their way or no way… a dangerous path to follow. //
And that is why the 'woke' who clearly represent a tiny, if disproportionally vocal, section of society should have their megaphone turned off and their power to persuade more sensible people who ought to know better, seriously curtailed, preferably eliminated.
No society is going to do well if it acts on the wishes of the smallest group making the most noise - that is not democracy.
What the ‘woke’ have said has certainly impacted on this man. He’s been pressured into resigning.
//safe in the knowledge that the majority of people are making similar allowances for your own personal quirks and foibles.//
Clearly the ‘woke’ aren’t making allowances at all - for anyone. It’s their way or no way… a dangerous path to follow. //
And that is why the 'woke' who clearly represent a tiny, if disproportionally vocal, section of society should have their megaphone turned off and their power to persuade more sensible people who ought to know better, seriously curtailed, preferably eliminated.
No society is going to do well if it acts on the wishes of the smallest group making the most noise - that is not democracy.
naomi - // I don't think they do represent a tiny proportion of our society. I think they're right up at the front - and being supported from every angle - which is why this nonsense is happening. //
I think it is a current media obsession, because irritating the great and the good always sells papers.
If you tell people via the medium of media, that something is far more important and effective than it actually is, you can get a large proportion of people to believe you.
Harry and Meghan are a prime example - constantly referred to - yes, of any scintilla of importance in the greater scheme of things - no.
I think it is a current media obsession, because irritating the great and the good always sells papers.
If you tell people via the medium of media, that something is far more important and effective than it actually is, you can get a large proportion of people to believe you.
Harry and Meghan are a prime example - constantly referred to - yes, of any scintilla of importance in the greater scheme of things - no.
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