Boris

[Paigntonian]

I wouldn't be all surprised if he decided to go. He's had an awesomely difficult time and, having climbed the greasy pole, he's maybe achieved what he set out to do - getting to the top. He was very resentful that his Oxford mate Cameron got there first. He's also skint so the Blair option of making megabucks in a very short time must be appealing. As for his legacy, he can always say 'he get Brexit done', however vacuous that line. And if he were to go would most people think too badly of him? I think not.

[emmie]

i confess i doubt it TTT.

[Canary42]

/// he can always say 'get Brexit done' ///

Oh no, not again, he already tweeted it over 240 times during the election campaign. Pernicious propaganda.

[Jackdaw33]

No, next time he'll say, "Got Brexit done", and the people will all say, "Hurray, Good old Boris".

[emmie]

not on here they won't

[drmorgans]

Except the MPs, the ones who could vote him out, don't remember the successes, just the failures that mean they might lose their jobs and the majority in the Commons.

[Jackdaw33]

Very true. Almost a paraphrase from Shakespeare:

The evil that men do lives after them,
The good is oft interred with their bones.

[ToraToraTora]

i just don't get why people think Boris will be leaving, he has a large majority, no GE till 2024 the covid crisis will soon be over, at least 3 years left to get on with the important work of giving Labour a good kicking. my money is on a Tory victory in 2024 led by Boris. Steer Calmer will be yet another Labour leader not to have won an election.

[bhg481]

TTT - do you really think Boris will retain his large majority at the next election? If he doesn't the knives will be out if the plotters don't get him before then.

[emmie]

Wish i had your enthusiam TTT

[ToraToraTora]

bhg, perhaps not but they didn't expect it in 2019. No sitting PM will be ousted with an 80 seat majority, any knives will be out if he loses but it will have been half a century since real Labour last won an election so I'll go with the form book on that one.

[Untitled]

Johnson kicked out many of the conservative party's most competent people sadly. There really are not very many left (I struggle to think of any actually though there are always the unknowns who kept their heads down during the purge). The party really did make the most disastrous decision for the country by choosing him... but the membership of that party do tend to be a bit divorced from reality.

[emmie]

Labour elected Corbyn for goodness sake....

[emmie]

one of the reasons they got their backsides kicked

[Untitled]

I know emmie.

[emmie]

I don;t see starmer as being particulaly charasmatic, he wants devolution away from central government in westminster, not sure that goes down well at all well.

[emmie]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55397201

[Untitled]

Why is it that every time a valid criticism is presented about the conservatives, the supporters of that party immediately cry "LABOUR! LABOUR! LABOUR!"? Is it because they have no rational arguments perhaps?

[emmie]

because they are Her Majestys opposition, and should by now be doing more in the way of being that.

[Sunk]

There should be more devolution not less, especially in England.
Andy Burnham got a thumping majority from the voters of Manchester when the Conservatives devolved powers to regional mayors.
It seems the public enthusiastically like powers ebbing out of Westminster, and instead run by their local representatives.

[Untitled]

They are not responsible for running the country emmie... i am not a particular fan of current labour either but they haven't been in power for ten years and probably won't be for the best part of another ten at least. They are largely irrelevant to the serious problems this country faces. It is the people in power who need to be held accountable.