The Eire Report On Mother And Baby Homes

[Paigntonian]

is beyond belief. Mass graves. Around 10,000 dead kids discarded and secretly buried. I am ashamed to be a Catholic.

[Buenchico]

Link here:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55622548

[emmie]

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/report-to-reveal-scale-of-abuse-at-irelands-mother-and-baby-homes/ar-BB1cFs2F

[emmie]

makes shocking reading, i confess i only got so far. but sure it will be on the main news.

[SparklyKid]

Shocking.

[Mamyalynne]

Horrendous situation from start to finish.

[elliemay1]

Has been hidden for far too long

[Paigntonian]

It's really hard to go to Mass when, firstly, 931 priests in England and Wales have admitted abuse against children over a ten-year period (reported in the Sunday Times but, strangely, not reported elsewhere) and now the appalling death toll of babies in the republic who were under the 'care' of nuns. I have come to the conclusion that if, if my kids were young, I would not leave them in the care of a Catholic priest. And the only possible consequence of that opinion is that I should not worship in a Catholic church. It's very hard to abandon a sincerely held belief. Truly hard. I don't know where else to go when my 'anchor' has gone. Rudderless.

[emmie]

i am a non believer, have never sought out solace from any church - not since attending a CofE school which didn't really count to be honest -

[pixie374]

Disgusting.
Paigntonian, it's a choice, you don't have to be a Catholic.

[burlyshirley]

Very, very sad and very dark days, but Paigntonian surely not all catholics are as warped ??

[ToraToraTora]

all I can suggest is Mr Fry's excellent evaluation of this disgusting religion:
I have no idea why it has followers.

[pixie374]

No, Shirley... you get abusers in any religion or none. It doesn't speak for everyone, or can be blamed on religion.

[Paigntonian]

burley: Of course they're not. There are 1.2 billion of us. I said I was ashamed of what has happened. And I would not leave one of my grandkids in the care, however briefly, of a Catholic priest. And if I didn't trust a priest with my grandkids I don't think I can honestly pray, and help, in a Catholic Church.

[ToraToraTora]

so why are you in the religion?

[Peter Pedant]

// I am ashamed to be a Catholic.//
collective guilt - get over it

someone asked me - why didnt the pope intervene?
er because I think he didnt know .....

The 600 kids in the Tuam back yard ( unhallowed ground they were just sort of tipped in) has been around for a long time. I knew about it before I retired 2012. Why today?

[Paigntonian]

Tora: You're showing the kind of intolerance that you accuse the Catholic Church of exhibiting. The Catholic Church takes no prisoners and you do the same.

[burlyshirley]

You said you were ashamed to be a catholic, a different meaning to being ashamed of what some of them did, surely ? I personally, don't think you have anything to be ashamed of.

[Peter Pedant]

Painto
the unitarians really get into good works
so you might try them
the only thing is that their theology is really weird
christian but not trinitarian

[pixie374]

Paigntonian, I'm not religious, but if atheists had committed those kind of crimes- it wouldn't make me ashamed of being one. If you have lost your faith and belief, that's one thing. But you should know they aren't all the same.

[Mamyalynne]

I'm not ashamed to be a Catholic but at times I despair at being a part of the human race who can be so unbearably cruel.