Watching The Sky Special On The Capitol Riot

[Sparta]

there can be no doubt that the mob intended to be violent, were violent and were (rather oddly I thought) anti-semetic. Fascists.

[ichkeria]

Also, none of this is new. The Oregon Capitol in Salem was attacked the previous week by the same sort of people

[royfromaus]

Sunk
royfromaus

You claim the riot wasn’t violent, but then say those who were using violence should be dealt with.

Might be time to rethink that.
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Fake news
Learn to read and comprehend.

[shoota]

I watched an episode of the Tucker Carlson show from 11th Jan last night which really highlighted some disturbing points about the involvement of 'outside influences' and saved it to return to today.
Guess what - it's been removed.
Any 'conservative' leaning platform is being silenced it would appear.

[Spicerack]

I went through page after page on Google for you, untitled. As expected, the only stories they had were about no Antifa members being there and all Trump supporters are liars.
However, just for you I went through my YouTube history and found it.
24:50 onwards.


I'm not claiming it proves or disproves anything in particular. Just not everything is necessarily as black & white as it's presented.

[jim360]

First of all, if you are suggesting that a person who has his own TV show is being "silenced" because YouTube isn't hosting its video, you don't understand the meaning of "silenced". Secondly, there's loads of Tucker Carlson stuff still up on FoxNews, so either he isn't being "silenced" (read: YouTube isn't hosting his videos) and merely a copyright claim against the video was made, or there are specific topics, such as the "stop the steal" propaganda, that are no longer tolerated.

There seems to be a misconception developing that unfettered use of social media accounts is an inalienable human right. It is not.

[Peter Pedant]

// You claim the riot wasn’t violent,//
er with one death from a gun
and another beaten to death
I am not sure where the non-violence comes from

but me, I am just a standard AB reader

[Spicerack]

// or there are specific topics, such as the "stop the steal" propaganda, that are no longer tolerated.//

Have you any idea how bad that sounds, jim? Although it is right.

[jim360]

I don't think it sounds bad at all. Why should clear falsehoods be given equal respect as the truth? There is no obligation to entertain liars.

[jim360]

The situation is perhaps different in the US, where the right to free speech is protected to an almost absurd degree; but even there the right extends to protection against attacks from the Government. Nobody else should be expected to tolerate nonsense, especially nonsense that in this case served to (try and) undermine Government and overthrow the results of a legitimate election.

[ichkeria]

Unfortunately that is where the unscrupulous benefit from the principal of “free speech”.
Taken to its logical end it gives propagation of lies and half truths equal weight to everything else.

[Untitled]

Blimey spicerack i wonder how the evil liberal fascist muslim communist MSM missed that steaming hot potatoe :/

What do you think that video proves exactly? It seems like an excuse for you to just make up a bunch of stuff to believe instead of the truth.

[shoota]

The fact that there is still plenty of Carlson content still up implies that the content of that particular broadcast was sufficiently sensitive to someone to have it taken down.
There was so much 'content' in it that I saved it to return to it today and I can't remember much of what he said but some of it was highlighting the way 'big tech' was only permitting people of whom it approved a platform.
He also pointed out that (and this is really what I wanted to return to) that some large corporations were telling people that had voted against or objected to the process of confirming Biden would never be employed by them.
His contention was that 'big tech' and big corporations were colluding to silence opposition in a democracy.

[sevenOP]

"There seems to be a misconception developing that unfettered use of social media accounts is an inalienable human right."

Or unfettered truth in social media accounts , as is easily show here:

https://twitter.com/27khv/status/1348243366807482374

Plenty labelling going on in this thread.

[Spicerack]

Cheers, untitled. You asked me to show the video. I went to some little trouble to find it for you. It shows what I said it purports to show and my reward; Abuse.
That's why I didn't name the Twitter & YouTube alternatives for you the other day. The way you framed your 'demand' left little doubt what 'we' would make of them.
You guys love censorship because you think it only happens to people you don't like. By the time you realise you've been had and you want to complain about something, you won't be able to.
See 'late you come, but still you come'. The A Hitler version.

[royfromaus]

Good posts by Jth and Shoota.


Anyone who believes Antifa were not at the protest has a turnip for a head.

[Ellipsis]

I watched the video.

It showed Trump supporters (A) calling other Trump supporters (B)"Antifa", because B were doing things that A couldn't believe a God-fearing Trump supporter would do; A associated those things more with the Antifa enemy than their fellow Trump supporters. It's not evidence in any way that B actually were Antifa, simply that A thought "Antifa" was an appropriate term of abuse.

[royfromaus]

Anyone who believes Antifa were not at that demonstration has a turnip for a head.


Worth repeating.

[shoota]

This all just leads me to wonder how robust Biden will be in the face of China's expansion in the South China Sea...

[jim360]

I've seen no evidence that AntiFa was present worth taking seriously. What's also undeniable is that Trump Supporters started and were actively involved in the rioting throughout, which is why so many of the prominent ones have since been arrested. I understand the desire to paint this as some sort of False flag operation, in whole or in part, but it really isn't. Nor will insults make it any more plausible.

[Untitled]

Well what do you expect spicerack? You said there were twitter/youtube alternatives "for normal people" - did you honestly think nobody would ask what they were? You came on this thread talking about a video that "showed things were not as black and white as they seem" (it doesn't) - did you expect nobody to ask?

You talk about MSM bias and then as an alternative offer a self-publicist on youtube...