The British Call The Shots

[Khandro]

Isn't it a fantastic achievement for Boris' Vaccine Taskforce, now having vaccinated more UK residents that the entire 27 countries of the EU combined have done for theirs?
Lots of men & women deserve accolades, but at the top should go Sir Patrick Vallance, "who from early on was hammering the point about onshore manufacturing" & the largely unsung 'Vaccine Tsar', Kate Bingham.
Three cheers for Britain at its best!

[ichkeria]

The stats whichever way you view them do not contradict Khandro’s assertion that the UK “leads” in Europe.
It’s impossible to say if it’s more than all the other EU countries combined. One would hope not.

[Bobbisox1]

////I wonder if any ABers have had both?////
@ brainiac, Yes my sister inlaw has had both, first just before christmas the next on Jan 6th , that when they were only 3 weeks apart, she had no reactions from them , she was given the Pfizer one

[Sunk]

// It’s impossible to say if it’s more than all the other EU countries combined. //

It is impossible to say because it is plainly untrue. Europe combined has vaccinated more people than the UK.

[bednobs]

of course Europe has vaccinated more people than the UK - the uk is in Blooming Europe!

[dannyk13]

Sunk, havr it your way but show me an EU country that comes anywhere close to the amount of vaccinations carried out in the UK.

[Khandro]

Britain could vaccinate everyone by next week, cure cancer & make everyone into millionaires, & sunk/gromit would find something wrong with it - I can only conclude that he hates Britain & its undoubted achievements.

[TrevorThePug]

"now having vaccinated more UK residents that the entire 27 countries of the EU combined"

"of course Europe has vaccinated more people than the UK - the uk is in Blooming Europe!"

Well which is it then.

UK 15m; EU 20m, so despite the good news, the claim is false and then you go play victim..... SAD!!!

[Khandro]

................ and Trevor the Plug.

[Sunk]

Khandro.

I know the figures.
UK 15.1 million vaccinations
Germany 4 million vaccinations
France 2.7 million vaccinations.

The UK has done fantastically well, far better than our neighbours.

Which is all the more reason not to lie.

[dannyk13]

Sunk, I don't think for one minute that Khandro deliberately lied,he just made a mistake.

[Spicerack]

Last week Sunk was assuring everyone that the EU ordered and paid for their vacs at the same time as the UK. (if not before) All lies, of course.
If you keep taking your 'facts' from the Haw Haw Times or whatever, sunk, you'll get a reputation as a liar and only the left wing intelligentsia will believe every word you say.

[Spicerack]

It's not necessarily that important. EU countries may have used the stocks they were allocated. Their big complaint was the wait for their next allocation. I was reading these things 2 weeks ago, it's possible things have changed.

[Sunk]

Spicerack
// Last week Sunk was assuring everyone that the EU ordered and paid for their vacs at the same time as the UK. //

Totally fabrication.

[vulcan42]

sunk can you post your link please?

[Spicerack]

Pretty sure it was you. If wrong, I will come back and apologise. I'll check later.

[david small]

Yah us.....

[Sunk]

Spicerack,
These two cooments are from me from 1st Feb...

// Bingham has done a good job, and proved us sceptics wrong. //

// Kate Bingham has done very well and credit where it is due. //

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1738845.html

[bednobs]

trev, I was referring to SUNK's assertion that "Europe combined has vaccinated more people than the UK. "
I suppose I was just being a pedant. Some people don't seem to know the difference between the EU and Europe. Although UKhas left the EU, it hasn't been towed off to join Asia.
Even if the EU had delivered 1 vaccination, Europe would have delivered more vaccines than the UK ( by at least 1)

[Sunk]

Khandro,
// Sir Patrick Vallance, "who from early on was hammering the point about onshore manufacturing" //

I confess, I have no recollection of Vallance or anyone else making that point.
Anyhow, that isn’t what has happened. We have ordered I think from 8 different vaccines. The OxfordAZ vaccine is made here. The Valneva will be made in Scotland. The GlaxoSmithKline was a failure. The rest, the majority, are made abroad.

[Khandro]

If only sunk/gromit could have had Corbyn/McDonnell running things, then we'd have really seen some action.