Dominic Cummings

[grumpy01]

I see he has put the boot in early.What ever happened to collective responsibility?

[DTCwordfan]

He lost it in Barnard Castle when his specs went east or west.

[Cloverjo]

I didn’t know he was still around. I had to clean my specs to make sure.

[grumpy01]

He was certainly very pointed in making sure that he didn’t include Matt Hancock in his limited praise for the vaccination rollout.

[DTCwordfan]

Vision Express tissues, Jo, not Specsavers....

[bobbinwales]

Put the boot in to NHS/PHE etc but not to Borris as he praised the vaccinne programme which was led by a Borris and a special task force (at DC's suggestion). bit unfair IMO as NHS has played a great part in vaccinne programme

[grumpy01]

NHS has done brilliantly with the vaccine rollout.PHE was in the hands of serial bungler Dido Harding.

[bobbinwales]

Dido was test/track and trace??
PHE/PHS/PHW etc is Public Health England, Scotland,, Wales

[ABerrant]

The Convention of Collective Responsibility is a political and therefore non-legally binding rule of the UK Constitution which can be found in both the Ministerial Code and the Cabinet Manual. It stipulates that government ministers, in particular the cabinet, must publicly agree and abide by government decisions (irrespective of their personal views) and that they should not disclose what was said privately amongst government ministers in reaching these decisions. Should a minister be incapable of doing this, they are expected to resign. If they don’t resign, the Prime Minister has the right to dismiss them.

SpAds (such as Cummings) are temporarily appointed Civil Servants who do not represent the Government in any formal sense and therefore not subject to the convention.

[Ellipsis]

He described the department of health as a basket case ... after 10 years of Tory PMs. He loves the sound of his own voice, and that's about it - certainly not the Tory party.

[Peter Pedant]

I thought it was very clear
true? what is truth when it comes to politics

what happened to collective responsibility? it was never there as he wasnt elected and wasnt a minister

the vacca policy
(in his limited praise for the vaccination rollout. - er what?)
I thought he was clear it was not a ministry job which I can well believe and Boris had arranged a Beaverbrook job ( printer who arranged all the spitfires much more efficiently than the Germans) which was outstandingly successful.

PHLS had previously failed on testing - "we cant do it" and three weeks later "we still have no idea how to do it"

[Peter Pedant]

thx aberrant
yup - - doesnt apply

[Peter Pedant]

I thought PHE/PHLS were terrible on Ebola and were ready and willing to really screw it up with Covid. - and then blame it on the doctors and nurses

and I thought No 10 were aware of it

[youngmafbog]

Put the boot in early? The NHS and civil service need a good shakeup, loose 1/2 the management and start becoming efficient in all other areas.

For the Vaccine rollout the NHS has done well but it has done it with a huge help from the Army (logistics) and the army of volunteers (which make up the majority of the people in the centres it seems).

As for anything outside the hallowed Covid the NHS has been disastrous and many will die early because of it, they are certainly not brilliant, amazing or any such thing.

Cummings is most certainly an odd ball and I'm not sure I would trust him, but he knows where the problems lie and is not afraid to say so. Pity more dont.

[Untitled]

How would purging the managers make the NHS more efficient? :/

[jno]

what ever happened to responsibility?

[Canary42]

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