Anyone Been Watching The Derek Chauvin Trial?

[Spicerack]

I presume we're allowed to talk about it as it's all live-streamed on US tv.

[pixie374]

Ok, I had heard he had not let them approach for a while- but don't positively know.

[shoota]

If the incident is deemed a violent one ambulances and paramedics are often instructed not to attend until the violence is demonstrably over for crew safety. I believe that applies in US as well.

[Everhelpful]

How can he say "I cannot breathe" 27 times? Takes some doing when he cannot breathe.!!

[pixie374]

We know all that, zacs. And he's now dead. Done. The question now, is whether Chauvin is the kind of character you want as a cop, or even a civilian.
He also has had an awful lot of complaints about his behaviour... are you absolutely sure he is an exemplary citizen himself?

[pixie374]

Not really, ever, I have seen that many times in people with asthma and copd.
What do you honestly expect them to say...? "My oxygen level has decreased enough to be uncomfortable and scary, possibly to the risk of my life. It may or may not be temporary though, so no panic"?
Seriously, if you are struggling to breathe... it's always urgent.

[Zacs-Master]

I never said he was, Pix. Please don't embroil me in the type of thread where you exercise a non-sequitur to create a non existent argument.

[pixie374]

Why are you taking it back to Floyd then? This is about Chauvin's behaviour.

[Khandro]

CORBYLOON //One of the witnesses estimated the equipment Chauvin carried weighed up to 40lb so that's nearly three stone to add on.//

40 lbs! what the hell did this 'witness' think he was carrying? that's almost the weight of a full army backpack, & there's no need in court for a witness to make such an estimation - what Chauvin was carrying can be easily demonstrated to within a few ounces.

[Spicerack]

andy-hughes

//Not sure what is supposed to be 'selective' about the video - it's clear what went on//
Of course it is. Only the corporate media only show the knee/neck part of the video which did look bad. From what Paingtonian said yesterday, at least some of them must be 'tampering' with the sound so you can't hear the threats and abuse from the bystanders.
If you haven't seen the first 20 minutes, George was complaining he couldn't breathe when he was sat in his own car and was clearly under the influence. It went downhill from there.

[anneasquith]

‘ it went downhill from there ‘ that’s an understatement, he’s dead .

[Zacs-Master]

'Why are you taking it back to Floyd then?'

Because Chauvin wouldn't be in the situation he was now if it wasn't for the Scum which was Floyd.

[anneasquith]

Zac. I didn’t know it was floyd who was on trial ?

[Zacs-Master]

Erm....he isn't and I've never said he was.

[pixie374]

Zacs, even you know that isn't true. If Floyd had died from an overdose on the ground, nobody would be in any position now. Chauvin is where he is, from his own chosen deliberate behaviour.
At best, George has brought out and shown someone else to be another violent thug.

[Zacs-Master]

Sorry, I completely disagree. Chauvin was on duty as a police officer and however you dress it up, he wouldn't be in the situation he is now if Floyd had been an law abiding decent citizen.

[pixie374]

And Floyd might not be dead, if Chauvin was a normal decent human. If, if, if...

[pixie374]

Purely out of interest, zacs... are you one of these who believes someone's "job" means they can be less moral than the general public, because they are "important"?

[Zacs-Master]

Another non-sequitur. No.

Floyd was scum and the world is a better place without him.
Another if.....
If Floyd wasn't dead he would undoubtedly have carried on his habitual criminal career and blighted the lives of many other people. I can see only plusses.

[pixie374]

Yet again- this is not about Floyd. He is dead. This is about Chauvin, and whether he, as a character, is safe- particularly as a police officer (which I think you would agree? Should be safer than most).
You still seem to be suggesting that if someone is killed- but turn out to be a criminal, that the "lucky outcome" absolves the killer?
Floyd is dead, you can forget him. What do you think of Chauvin, as a professional man?

[Zacs-Master]

'You still seem to be suggesting that if someone is killed- but turn out to be a criminal, that the "lucky outcome" absolves the killer?'

Do I? I think you'd LIKE me to suggest or even state that, but I haven't because it's patently ridiculous. Peoples opinions of whether Chauvin's actions were wrong are irrelevant. It is being decided by a court of law.

What is a fact is that the world is a better place because of his actions. You cannot deny that.