Tories Fail On Immigration?

[Khandro]

What do I think of the Conservatives’ performance on immigration over the past ten years? After a good(ish) start, which saw the introduction of some sensible measures, it has been downhill. Their record over the past five years, however, has been little short of abysmal.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/05/11/exclusive-migration-watch-slams-tories-abject-failure-on-borders-after-11-years-in-govt/

If Breitbart doesn't report on it, who will (apart from Nigel that is.) nothing at all from MSM.

[emmie]

according to one piece on the news 17thousand illegal immigrants came to these shores last year, and that figure may continue. I have no answer to the problem except the say that this shouldn't be happening at all.

[Bobbisox1]

I tend to agree Khandro, there should have been much tougher measures in place although what, I don’t know either

[emmie]

it isn't reported on by the MSM, i have no idea why not.

[davebro]

It's abysmal & a failure of all governments for decades. Legal immigration could & should be more strictly controlled & ID cards could help to identify illegals.
The deportation of illegals should be fast-tracked and severe penalties put in place for anyone found to be employing illegals.
Immigrants committing crimes attracting a jail sentence should be deported when they have served their time, no appeal.

[emmie]

i agree with all of that, but we have left leaning lawyers will to defend these people seemingly.

[joeski53]

//immigration could & should be more strictly controlled & ID cards could help to identify illegals// How do you give ID cards to all those already here? Last count (rough estimate)by the LSE was up to 800,000 and rising.

[gulliver1]

So Brexit was a waste of time then .Immigration is still very very active .

[bobbinwales]

Deporting illegals is easier said than done. You got to find them, go through appeals rocess that can take ages, find them again if they disappear as we cant lock them all up and finally find someone who'l take them.

[davebro]

Admitted Australia probably doesn't have anywhere near as many but they seem to have no problem deporting illegal immigrants. (and dealing with their employers)

[davebro]

Brexit gave us at least the opportunity to control immigration from Europe which we didn't have as a member of the EU. Whether are gov will act on that is another matter.

[bobbinwales]

Its abit harder getting a dingy to Australia or hiding inaccessible car boot or back of lorry to get there than to get from Calais to england

[bobbinwales]

In a car boot not inaccessible carboot (predictive text)

[bobbinwales]

Gullivers forgot what brexit was really about.

[emmie]

they showed you one instance of a Syrian guy hiding in the roof luggage holder of someone's car, he was hidden inside for 4 hours apparently, got on in France i think, how do you stop that, the car owners didn't know he was there, but they have been fined 200 quid

[Peter Pedant]

// So Brexit was a waste of time then .Immigration is still very very active .//

yeah agree this is Brexit fred - resurrected in the best Easter tradition. but changed - - pentecostal it is

[gulliver1]

08.08 But these arriving now ain't E/U Immigrants, are they , thats why Brexit was a waste of time.

[emmie]

no they are from all over the world, and we are letting them stay, which is the wrong message to send out.

[Peter Pedant]

// Its a bit harder getting a dingy to Australia//
yea foo dat !

they were called boat people werent they? - and ended up in camps on the Spratling islands or somewhere - where the chinese are now

[emmie]

Brexit wasn't a waste of time, its given us back our country, stop feeding the EU beasts billions of pounds of tax payers money for one thing. Besides which it wasn't all about immigration, but many things, including soverignty, the right to fish our waters, to trade with who ever will trade with us.

[dannyk13]

Can somebody explain to Gulliver that Brexit was not wholly about immigration so that he can untwist his knickers.