Is It Just Me That Finds This Disturbing

[calmck]

A sixteen year old was killed by a hit and run driver speeding on the wrong side of the road.
A tragedy for the family but why was he riding at 1.20am!? Surely he should have been home in bed at this time

[pixie374]

Also interesting, the link says the "escooter crashed with a car" not vv. Maybe it was his fault.

[Mozz71]

Even if it was Pixie, the vehicle's driver skidaddled the scene pretty sharpish.

[Togo]

Some "customers" need their products delivering in the wee small hours.

[pixie374]

Yes, he may well have been guilty of other crimes. But the death, may not have been his fault. I just disagree with the general idea, that whoever comes off worst, is the "victim" always. If I jumped in front of a train, I would be the perpetrator, not the victim.

[jno]

pixie, yes, I've just noticed that the claim in the OP that the driver was on the wrong side of the road isn't made in the BBC report. It may be calmck has seen a more detailed report somewhere else. I don't know.

[barry1010]

Would a drug dealer really draw attention to himself by riding an illegal escooter? That just gives the police a reason to stop, search and confiscate the scooter.

[Mozz71]

I get what you mean Pix, and I guess it comes under my previous post about waiting for more info.

[calmck]

I wasn't laying the blame on the victim just wondering why, unless he was coming home from work etc, any 16 year old would be out at that time of night. The driver of the car was obviously at error being on the wrong side of the road, speeding and drunk. Maybe I am old fashioned and believe that a 16 year old should be in bed at that time except in exceptional circumstances

[barry1010]

https://news.sky.com/story/junior-shay-alexander-teenager-killed-in-bromley-e-scooter-hit-and-run-named-as-parents-pay-tribute-to-beautiful-son-12360499

[calmck]

The Evening Standard reported it as a hit and run with the car and driver being found later

[pixie374]

Maybe it was exceptional circumstances? What difference does it make?

[barry1010]

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/escooter-crash-teenager-killed-bromley-police-b946489.html
Wrong side of road

[pixie374]

Ok. A DUI and failure to stop, but still nothing about the actual collision.

[pixie374]

Thanks Barry, ok x

[gness]

I don't agree that violent crime is going down, Pixie.

Also increasing is the sickening behaviour of so many young folk now. I may be being coloured by recent events here in this backwater where we've never had a problem with litter or vandalism despite having a fairly large number of teens and young adults.

Two days ago our annual "sculpture in the park" exhibition was destroyed and burned in the early hours by visitors who would usually be getting drunk on the Costa del Somewhere.

[pixie374]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_Kingdom
Officially it is, gness... but you have to read through. Reporting has increased.
We also don't seem to have a problem with litter or vandalism. That might depend on area.

[gness]

When you go from the occasional naughty child in a class to retiring earlier than planned because you have half a class of hooligans with ignorant parents you no longer want to cope with it's getting bad, Pixie.

As for area....well no....it's the behaviour of the louts now visiting our country and they didn't appear to come from deprived areas.

[dave50]

Yes a sixteen year old should be in bed at 1.30 in the morning, if not then they are up to no good.

[gness]

Always up to no good, Dave50?

[pixie374]

I had a nightmare child at school for a while. I apologise to teachers everywhere!