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maggiebee | 10:32 Sun 15th Aug 2021 | News
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Seems very easy to get hold of firearms these days. Where do they come from?

Three women and a man were shot in Camden on Saturday night.

Police were called to Clarence Gardens near Regent’s Park at around 10.10pm after residents heard gunfire.

Firearms officers and paramedics attended the scene.

Two women were taken to hospital with gunshot wounds. A man and women later took themselves to hospital with similar injuries.

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/three-women-man-shot-north-074353220.html
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I think there are a lot more guns around than people realise. The IRA rarely had difficulty getting guns and it's the same with criminal gangs.
In the film "Harry Brown" Michael Caine went to buy a gun from some drug producer/dealer. Much violence ensued!
Yeah,the IRA.Lyra McKee was murdered in the name of the Irish people by an illegally held handgun.Bastrads.
I’ve frequented many boozers in South London, it’s where I was brought up, and still do, and I wouldn’t have the first clue how to get hold of a gun.
Blimey, I had to sign a receipt for a tiny penknife from Amazon.
I bet some of the clients of my former workplace would be able to supply weapons of some sort.
I am very happy to say I wouldn't have a clue where to get one or know anyone who would.
Dealing firearms and class A drugs is not very different in sentencing. Look in any city or town centre how many junkies there are - even in sleepy, lovely Taunton.
Also, if criminals can get truck loads of people in the country illegally, it is hardly going to be that hard to get a small hand gun which can be disassembled in to about 30 parts is it?
I suppose you just go into the boozer and say to the barman you're looking for a specialist hand equipment .

Order your pint , sit at the table at the back and sip it slowly .

By the time you leave you will be met on the pavement outside bybs geezer asking if you were the bloke inside enquiring about 'places of interest' in the pub
'bybs'

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2 million legal guns for an adult population of 50 million, means there is a gun for every 25 people.
Legal guns get stolen from cars, houses and clubs so the illegal supply will be substantial.
ynnafymmi:-"Lyra McKee was murdered in the name of the Irish people by an illegally held handgun."

Are you maintaining it was a legally sanctioned execution ?
I was bought up in a pub. Most of the clientele were law abiding but there were a few dodgy caricatures. I also work for a security firm....I know dodgy people. I also have a massive family who also know dodgy people.

And to make it clear I have no desire to own a gun or hate someone enough to want to shoot them.
//Dealing firearms and class A drugs is not very different in sentencing.//

Not quite correct.

Whilst both offences carry a maximum sentence of Life imprisonment, the very lowest sentencing range for dealing in prohibited firearms has a starting point of six years custody, with a range of three to eight years. It is an indictable only offence meaning it can only be dealt with in the Crown Court. Sentencing guidelines are here:

https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/crown-court/item/firearms-transfer-and-manufacture/

By contrast, possession with intent to supply Class A drugs, at its least serious, has a starting point of eighteen months custody, with a suggested range of a high level community Community Order to three years custody. It is an "either way" offence meaning it can be dealt with either in the Crown Court or the Magistrates' Court. Sentencing guidelines are here:

https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magistrates-court/item/supplying-or-offering-to-supply-a-controlled-drug-possession-of-a-controlled-drug-with-intent-to-supply-it-to-another/

In short, if a first time offender pleading guilty, is convicted of supplying a small amount of heroin to somebody and there are no aggravating factors, he can look forward to a bit of unpaid work, a curfew order, or a few appointments with his probation officer. If he supplies one gun to somebody he can look forward to a three year prison sentence.
// I also work for a security firm....I know dodgy people.//

Is this "firm" legit? Do they know of your dodgy acquaintances and access to illegal firearms? Are you sure you are not just being a caricature?
We're not talking about Doug and Dinsdale Piranha are we?
//We're not talking about Doug and Dinsdale Piranha are we?//

Smashin' blokes. Won't hear a word said against them. They used to come round every Sunday to nail my 'ead to the floor. They had to do it. They 'ad no choice. One Sunday I told Duggie that my Dad wasn't well. So d'ya know what? He let me off! Smashin' blokes!"
^^ Haha ... No Cartesian dualism in those days. It is all too easy now.
@16.42.Whether it was sanctioned or not,Lyra was murdered in the name of the Irish people.Until the Irish people stand up to the bloodthirsty IRA scum they will always be tainted by these terrorists and their hands will always be tainted by the blood of innocent people that the IRA and their friends murdered in the name"of the Irish people".
There is, rightly, no arguing with that fanny.^^^

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