Tim Martin

[ynnafymmi]

I see Tim Martin is moaning because his pubs have run out of beer(thanks to Brexit),he is moaning because his pubs have run out of staff(thanks to Brexit).Its a good thing that Tim Martin wasnt a leading Brexiteer,wasnt it?Ohh,wait a minute...

[ToraToraTora]

Gromit, did you once have a bad experience in a Spoons pub?

[emmie]

who hasn't TTT.

[naomi24]

I've only ever been in them for breakfast at airports. I've no complaints.

[emmie]

actually for the most part neither have i, cheap beer and eats if you want it.

[douglas9401]

Slow down please! It's hard to keep up on this slalom.

[gulliver1]

Wonder if Farage drinks in a spoons,,,,,hope so.

[Deskdiary]

He may well be a twit Gulliver (I don’t know) but you also said he’s not very clever, and you do not amass that amount of wealth by not being clever.

[Togo]

//Gromit, did you once have a bad experience in a Spoons pub?//

Yep he was told to leave when he had a tantrum because they didn't do chicken nuggets. His mam left his crayoning book behind as well . Ruined his 18 birthday party.

[gulliver1]

10.20 Deskdiary, Nowhere and at no time have I ever said Tim Martin is not very clever. please get your facts correct before posting your usual Tosh.

[teacake44]

There's only one reason this particular company has at the moment run out of beer its because beer is going out the door no sooner its ready, no large amounts of stock like there normally is. The company bought up large stocks that were near there sell by dates, hence the cheaper beer being sold. If there is a shortage of hops, then it will be a long time before such stocks build back up again. Plus who will take the gamble of building such stocks back up again when the pub business is still suffering, and then have to sell it on cheaper or end up throwing it down the drain again?

[dave50]

The wreckless and business destroying reaction to covid is the main reason for this mess.

[Deskdiary]

Apologies Gulliver - I meant Gromit. Gromit said Martin wasn’t very clever.

[teacake44]

The lack of hops is mainly due too lack of foreign workers. I believe there is a short window when hop crops need to be gathered in, with an unsure workforce to do that at the right time, then it is a lost crop. Whatever is gathered will demand a higher price. Then you have the brewers who have already lost millions in lost business, and who knows how many gallons had to be thrown down the drain during lock downs. There is no way I can see that they will hold large stocks again especially with the lack/ cost of the hops and other overheads that they are struggling with. And who knows Boris my be mad enough to lock down again?

[Togo]

I think you will find that the hop industry, like many other agricultural processes, was mechanised many years ago. The traditional hand picking done by families from London and treated as a holiday are long gone. As are the stilt walkers who used to string the lines for the hops to climb. They have even changed the varieties grown and now only grow the strains that are conducive to mechanical harvesting and tending. This all began in the 50s when Brexit was only a dream and the labour, when there was a lot required, never was supplied by foreign gangs ... and still the story telling and false cant concerning gaining our rightful freedom and independance, and once again learning to think for ourselves goes on. Some never will be able to think for themselves though.

[teacake44]

Didn't know all the above, but I was watching an interview on TV with a crop grower a few days ago stating such problems, obviously not a big producer.

[Togo]

In fact, the hop growing and harvesting cycle is a fascinating process. One that goes back hundreds of years in Southern England and something else that was almost destroyed in the drive for all things new and "continental". How the hell did they persuade us to drink that hospice called lager? No Carlsberg, Coors, or Fosters in The Spoons. I call that a drive for quality not a delivery issue.

[Jackdaw33]

Very true. When I started drinking in the 60s lager was only ever sold in half-pint bottles and drunk only by women.

[jno]

Brexit was a dream in the 50s?

[Togo]

Very true Jackdaw. Have you ever considered that the massive rise in diabetes in the UK correlates very neatly with the accompanying rise in lager consumption. The Germans knew this many years ago but failed to put it in the advertising blurb.

[Jackdaw33]

I never made that connection. Very interesting food for thought. In those days a man drinking lager was akin to him drinking Babycham.