Isn't It Time We Got Fracking?

[dave50]

With gas prices going through roof and being held to ransom by foreign governments its absolutely ludicrous that we are not making the most of the shale gas under our feet. Ignore the idiotic eco loonies and scaremongering and just get on with it.

[tamborine]

In an emergency I choose life over recycling!

[AuntPG]

lol! what on earth has that got to do with you suggesting everyone burns their rubbish in their fireplaces?

[davebro]

I was surprised - there are a couple of new estates being built near me & EVERY house has chimney. I assume they are equipped with gas boilers and/or multifuel type stoves.
So housebuilders aren't really getting on board with new heating sources.

[Hopkirk]

Our new build house appears to have a chimney.

It's a fake, attached to the roof for effect.

[davebro]

//It's a fake, attached to the roof for effect.//

What bloomin effect? It's a complication & possible source of trouble you don't need! PMSL

[davebro]

The estate I live on was built in the 70s & although most (all?) have gas central heating there are no chimneys & no overhead wires (telephones etc.)

[AuntPG]

// So housebuilders aren't really getting on board with new heating sources.//

Yes they are, no more gas boilers are being fitted. New houses are being built with alternative energy sources, be it air source or solar.

We build high end stone-built homes, extensions and barn convo's and for the last 5 years not one of them has had a gas or oil boiler fitted and everyone has underfloor heating downstairs.

[fender62]

i agree with nj, open coal mines again, power plus a jobs boost
eco loonies dont care if were sat round freezing, dont like burning wood coal gas or using nuclear energy, i suppose we all wait round if were still alive for a windy day, imagine erm lights went, quick
hand on electric fire..oops powers gone again, err granny just froze to death, can we burn her to kep warm, no it adds to the carbon foot print.

[davebro]

Why all the chimneys then AuntPG?

[AuntPG]

Planning dave. New build, especially in and around villages, have to 'blend in' and often fake chimneys are part of that. There are no 'chimneys' though - just the brick or stone seat and the chimney pot on top.

[New Judge]

//Refusing to accept the obvious truths about climate change,//

Though I do have some doubts about the likely affects, I am not refusing to accept those truths. But the people accepting them unconditionally seem also to either deny or ignore some of the truths I have pointed out (and they are only some of the threats to be faced). This country is simply not in a position to make the changes planned in the timescales envisaged. More than that, even if it made them tomorrow, it would make absolutely no difference to the problems the changes are said to address.

The people advocating these changes are in similar "denial". if they are carried through there is no doubt that hardship, "fuel poverty" and huge economic damage will ensue. It's already beginning and I have a far greater fear of those effects materialising than any threats as a result of climate change. It is not a simple argument with a simple solution, but it is being presented as such.

[dave50]

Nj is one of the few on here that regularly talks common sense. You need to go into politics nj and bang some deluded heads together.

[davebro]

Unfortunately with our current crop of politicos I think he might be p-ing in the wind!

[Togo]

Besides all the valid, although uncomfortable for some, point that NJ made we were even lulled into allowing the closure of the storage facilities in Yorkshire and off the coast formerly known as Rough. This facility could store gas all through the Spring and Summer months to provide a steady reliable flow in the Autumn and Winter months(including Christmas). In fact it was 70% of our total storage capacity. Gone. Result? We are now hostage to the whim of the gas suppliers, who can name their price, and their supply lines that are vulnerable to natural or man made disaster.( note the panic in the electrickery industry because of a fire in one supply cable facility from, of all places, France. It is recognised that the closure of Rough was a grave miscalculation, but only quietly , and there is now a "plan" to reopen it ... as a hydrogen storage facility ... at a cost of £1.6billion. That is a lot of balloons is it not? Because we sure as hell haven't got that many hydrogen burners or cars. Madness. I would suggest that you make plans to keep warm and have light for when the cuts arrive. They are going to. The smart meters will come in handy for the suppliers for a while, then we will all be off grid.

[fcc]

we were taught at school that our planets weather was driven by the
sun,when has that changed?

[Togo]

Ta Dave50. Surprisingly all the wind on here last night appears to have got the windmills turning again this morning.

[tommy39]

dave 50 its not a price worth paying.the gov could but us oldies into hotels same as they do with gimmegrants that would be good now wich mp would propose it.but no to fracking