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ynnafymmi | 05:51 Sun 26th Sep 2021 | News
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Anyone know how this Brexit carry-on is doing.(Just asking for a friend).No empty shelves,no rationing of petrol,no asking back all these nasty Europeans we told to *** off back to their own countries or anything?As i said just asking for a friend.
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//As i said just asking for a friend.// ynnafymmi - have you got any friends? Just asking.
07:43 Sun 26th Sep 2021
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If Bojo is asking lorry drivers back why doesnt he ask factory workers back,why doesnt he ask farm workers back,why doesnt he ask hospitality workers back?The sunny uplands of Brexit,eh?
//At the moment the actual services are grinding to a halt //

I haven't noticed anything 'grinding to a halt'. You wouldn't be exaggerating by any chance ... would you?
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So the massive queues outside petrol stations arent a sign of things"grinding to a halt",Naomi.Looks like grinding to a halt by anyones standards.Empty shelves and Bojo pleading for European lorry drivers to come back to benighted Britain looks to me like the UK is"grinding to a halt".
Brexit was the UKs biggest mistake ever Ynnafymmi, but the Brexiteers will never ever admit they got it wrong. They were conned by the Cons,and now they are paying for it , and it ain't gonna get any better. They think if they keep the blinkers on and keep looking down that tunnel they will eventually see the sunlit meadows that boris promised them.
ynna, //looks to me.... //

That doesn't surprise me.
gulliver, //They were conned by the Cons...//

The 'Cons' didn't want Brexit - hence Cameron's swift and cowardly departure - leaving the duplicitous Mrs May to tie herself into knots whilst trying to reach an agreement that tied us in. Do have a think before posting. It helps.
"the Brexiteers will never ever admit they got it wrong"

very true.
Emmie, your link proves absolutely nothing, seeing as how it is almost 5 years old. All it tells us is how many EU nationals were living in the UK at that particular point in time - 8 July 2016. The referendum wasn't held until November of that year, and i doubt any of those EU nationals would have upped sticks and left before the result was known.
Your link also shows that there were not 5 million EU nationals in the UK in 2016, but just 2.9 million.
as i pointed out Ken in a further post.
KEN, the Brexit referendum, took place on 23rd June, not in November.
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The Brexiteers preferred to believe the lies written on the side of a bus.The Brexiteers were warned by Cassandras like me.They didnt listen.Now the Brexiteers are queuing up outside their local petrol station and praying their hated EU comes to their aid.
Whatever is in the future for Britain brexit will never be blamed . Just check out the post of the brexiteers They know everything. :-)
Ken further to my original post which was rather dated,

dtc we aren't talking long ago but now, and i have provided a link to say how many have taken up the option of staying and its close on 5 million. nearly 3 million Europeans according to the link.
"The Cons didnt want Brexit" {Cameron invented it.) (Boris implemented it)?
...Remember what Boris said.....Lets get Brexit done!....
i don't know everything, if i did i would be rich as Bill Gates, to suggest otherwise is absurd.
Boris was initially a remainer.....
//…essentially what has happened is that Esso and BP have reached a point where a large intake of drivers have retired.//


Exactly. And that is not the government’s fault, nor is it the fault of the EU nor of Brexit. Directors and managers run companies, not the government. Haulage companies know when their staff are due to retire, they know their “wastage” rates and they know how many staff they need. The fact that they’ve been providing rubbish pay and conditions and so cannot recruit staff is their fault and nobody else’s. Any losses that are due to Brexit are also theirs to foresee and cure. They know how many of their staff are EU citizens and they’ve had over five years to get used to the idea that the UK will no longer be part of the EU and that some of their staff may possibly leave as a result. Instead many have sat on their hands waiting for the government to “do something.”

So the massive queues outside petrol stations arent a sign of things"grinding to a halt",

The massive queues are caused by stockpiling rather than any overall shortages. Here’s an article from the Grauniad, an organ not particularly renowned for its support of a Tory government:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/sep/25/panic-buying-rather-than-shortages-causing-queues-at-uk-petrol-stations-aa-head-says

“People have been spotted filling up jerry cans with petrol in pictures being circulated on social media.”

If you look at the Daily Mail article I have linked below, you will find a little way down in that article, a picture of a motorist filling six plastic containers full of fuel to go into the boot of her car.

In turn, the media frenzy may have been caused by this:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10028661/HGV-boss-accused-triggering-petrol-pump-crisis-Ministers-point-finger-ex-BBC-man.html

Shipping in cheap foreign labour is not the answer to this problem (and it’s a problem, not a crisis). It was doing that over the last forty years that had led to the UK becoming a low-wage low skilled economy. The answer is for employers to pay the proper going rate to its people and to train them up as required, and not import them, ready trained, from abroad when all they will do is simply depress pay. The UK is out of the EU now and, bar an absolute turn of faith – which no major political party seems keen on promoting – it will remain out until the EU is finally wound up as the failed experiment it is. Perhaps you could pass that information on to your friend.
//Your link also shows that there were not 5 million EU nationals in the UK in 2016, but just 2.9 million.//

Nobody knows how many EU citizens were in the UK in 2016. Nobody knows that now. In fact, nobody knows how many people are in the UK or where they are from. All that can be said with any certainty is that more than 5 million people applied for settled status when the scheme for EU citizens closed.
well said NJ, the voice of experience and reason.
Gulliver, //"The Cons didnt want Brexit" {Cameron invented it.) (Boris implemented it)? //

Cameron didn't 'invent' it. He enabled the electorate to vote on it - and rightly so. Sadly for him, it didn't go his way - hence his hasty departure. Fortunately, after the disastrous May's tenure, we got someone with the guts to uphold democracy - something you appear to understand little of.

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