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Uk Fuel And Food Problems .
Where is the Clown thats running the Circus. Has he still got his head buried in the sand somewhere, hoping someone else will come up with a solution and then he can make an appearance, Come out of hiding Boris
..... Your Country need YOU.......It's time to surface and sort this mess out that you have got the UK into.
..... Your Country need YOU.......It's time to surface and sort this mess out that you have got the UK into.
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//We get rid of the good Europeans and we import unproven boat people from France.//
We didn’t “get rid” of anybody. Some chose to leave. Those who wanted to stay could (and the vast majority did).
As far as the lorry driver shortage goes, it’s time to put this to bed. There has been constant harping on here about the effect that Brexit has had on the lorry driver shortage. I have been suggesting that Brexit is not the principle cause and that pay and conditions in the sector are to blame. Here’s an interesting report:
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It’s a Torygraph article so you may need to press “Escape” as it is loading. In case you cannot see it, here’s some salient points:
“Figures from the Office of National Statistics, show that of the 46,000 drivers who left the haulage industry between 2016 and 2020, only 9,000 - 19 per cent - were EU nationals.”
“National statistics also show the percentage of EU drivers in the UK workforce has remained steady since Brexit.”
Since 2016 the number of HGV drivers has dropped from 321,000 to 275,000. EU drivers made up 11.5% of the 321k and now make up 10.2% of the 275k. In 2016 the industry was already short of 60,000 drivers. It is now short of 100,000. There is scarcely any difference between the rate of loss among EU drivers and that of UK drivers. Hauliers cannot recruit young people into the job because the pay and conditions are so unattractive and the age profile of HGV drivers is steadily rising. The cause of this problem is mis-management by the haulage industry over a lengthy period. Huw Merriman, MP, chairman of the Commons transport committee (and a Remainer, incidentally) points to a report prepared in 2016 which highlighted the haulage industry’s staffing problems and he now suggests that the industry comes up with a plan to address those problems in the business which they are supposed to be managing, instead of constantly asking what the government will do about it.
As I said a few days ago, the government does not run the haulage industry, its directors and managers do.
We didn’t “get rid” of anybody. Some chose to leave. Those who wanted to stay could (and the vast majority did).
As far as the lorry driver shortage goes, it’s time to put this to bed. There has been constant harping on here about the effect that Brexit has had on the lorry driver shortage. I have been suggesting that Brexit is not the principle cause and that pay and conditions in the sector are to blame. Here’s an interesting report:
https:/
It’s a Torygraph article so you may need to press “Escape” as it is loading. In case you cannot see it, here’s some salient points:
“Figures from the Office of National Statistics, show that of the 46,000 drivers who left the haulage industry between 2016 and 2020, only 9,000 - 19 per cent - were EU nationals.”
“National statistics also show the percentage of EU drivers in the UK workforce has remained steady since Brexit.”
Since 2016 the number of HGV drivers has dropped from 321,000 to 275,000. EU drivers made up 11.5% of the 321k and now make up 10.2% of the 275k. In 2016 the industry was already short of 60,000 drivers. It is now short of 100,000. There is scarcely any difference between the rate of loss among EU drivers and that of UK drivers. Hauliers cannot recruit young people into the job because the pay and conditions are so unattractive and the age profile of HGV drivers is steadily rising. The cause of this problem is mis-management by the haulage industry over a lengthy period. Huw Merriman, MP, chairman of the Commons transport committee (and a Remainer, incidentally) points to a report prepared in 2016 which highlighted the haulage industry’s staffing problems and he now suggests that the industry comes up with a plan to address those problems in the business which they are supposed to be managing, instead of constantly asking what the government will do about it.
As I said a few days ago, the government does not run the haulage industry, its directors and managers do.
16.43 N/J ,"As far as the lorry driver shortages go, it's time to put this to bed " It's ok for you to spout your own opinion on the lorry driver shortage , but try telling that to people in the supermarket with empty shelves or the motorist who has sat in a fuel queue for two hours,it is obviously not affecting you and is a case of pull the ladder up.
Maybe there should be a separate section on the site for personal obsessions like Gulliver's with Boris, impervious to all logical argument, such as New Judge's measured piece at 1643.
Come out of hiding, Boris, Gulliver wails. It seems that Boris was at his mother's funeral on Monday.
The separate section could perhaps be called "King Charles' Head".
Come out of hiding, Boris, Gulliver wails. It seems that Boris was at his mother's funeral on Monday.
The separate section could perhaps be called "King Charles' Head".
//It's ok for you to spout your own opinion on the lorry driver shortage...//
What I spouted in my last post was largely fact. The opinion - with which I agree - is mainly that of Huw Merriman, MP, chairman of the Commons transport committee. He probably has more facts and figures available to him than I do. He also campaigned for "remain" in the referendum campaign and would probably jump at the chance to blame Brexit for the HGV driver shortage if he could reasonably do so. But it seems he cannot.
What I spouted in my last post was largely fact. The opinion - with which I agree - is mainly that of Huw Merriman, MP, chairman of the Commons transport committee. He probably has more facts and figures available to him than I do. He also campaigned for "remain" in the referendum campaign and would probably jump at the chance to blame Brexit for the HGV driver shortage if he could reasonably do so. But it seems he cannot.
@10.52.Wed.Yes,they did have that option and every benefit was offered to them by our boss(including promotions and pay rises).They still up and left.Meanwhile mugs like me have to work increased hours to cover for the leavers.More money for me in overtime pay(i dont need it)....and more stress for me(at the age of 61,i certainly dont need it).
Brexit is not the root cause of the fuel shortages.... but it has made the situation worse. The single market countries are not having as many serious supply problems as we are having despite also having a driver shortage...
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//Shortages of lorry drivers have not led to empty supermarket shelves or significant disruption in Europe because of “labour flexibilities” in the European Union’s single market, according to industry experts.//
Those "labour flexibilities" are one of the main reasons why many people voted to leave.
//They still up and left.//
The job could not have been that attractive, then. Some 5m EU citizens have opted to remain in the UK under the settled status scheme and I doubt many of them were offered pay rises and promotions. Many of them do what is often described as "menial" work (but which in fact is quite important to keep society and the economy running).
As an aside, I don't know why the UK seems perfectly content to plunder the labour forces of other countries, especially when those people have been trained at the expense of those countries.
Those "labour flexibilities" are one of the main reasons why many people voted to leave.
//They still up and left.//
The job could not have been that attractive, then. Some 5m EU citizens have opted to remain in the UK under the settled status scheme and I doubt many of them were offered pay rises and promotions. Many of them do what is often described as "menial" work (but which in fact is quite important to keep society and the economy running).
As an aside, I don't know why the UK seems perfectly content to plunder the labour forces of other countries, especially when those people have been trained at the expense of those countries.
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