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The Sunny Uplands Of Brexit
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Over the last year or so, as a remoaner I have been posting details of the impact of Brexit on the UK economy. This has included the loss of billions of pounds worth of exports (which is continuing on a daily basis), a shortage of HGV drivers (and other key workers), and many other negative effects of Brexit on the UK populous (unless you are the CEO of a mobile phone company). Others have posted news items in a similar vein – to avoid sounding like a broken record, I have not posted details of a number of negative Brexit news items (which are legion).
For some reason, Brexiteers on this site seem reluctant to post pro-Brexit news items - such as a fantastic trade deal with the USA, or some other similar such benefit of no longer being a member country of the EU. In order to redress the balance, I offer this thread in which Brexiteers can post details of news items detailing how our lives have been improved by Brexit.
I’ll kick the list off with blue passports (although mine is black), and a news story you might have missed – that the CE mark on pint glasses is to be replaced with the ‘Crown’ mark (confirming the volume of the glass to be a pint).
Over to you Brexiteers to add to the list.......
For some reason, Brexiteers on this site seem reluctant to post pro-Brexit news items - such as a fantastic trade deal with the USA, or some other similar such benefit of no longer being a member country of the EU. In order to redress the balance, I offer this thread in which Brexiteers can post details of news items detailing how our lives have been improved by Brexit.
I’ll kick the list off with blue passports (although mine is black), and a news story you might have missed – that the CE mark on pint glasses is to be replaced with the ‘Crown’ mark (confirming the volume of the glass to be a pint).
Over to you Brexiteers to add to the list.......
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What a good post. As a small business owner and farmer who is trying to deal with the immense hurdles put in the way of Trade with the EU, I would really be interested to read anything, however small, that the UK has benefitted from, or indeed will benefit from. Better trade with the USA? Better International Trade? Personally, nothing has changed for me I trade Internationally the same now as I did before Brexit. Come on Brexiteers , what's better now than before Brexit?
Non EU countries with whom we have a trade deal:-
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//...what's better now than before Brexit?//
The fact that we are no longer members of the European Union. That is it in a nutshell. The benefits will become more apparent when the EU implodes, as it certainly will when its latest expansion plans are realised, if not before that. However, that is by the way. No nation should have sacrificed its sovereignty and submitted to a legal system that trumped its own without asking its electorate. We were never asked about any of the salami-style changes that were made to our constitution over the last four decades. Fortunately we were asked before sufficient numbers of people had been fooled into believing that our survival outside the EU was impossible. As soon as we were, the answer came.
This will cause businesses some problems (though many of those currently evident are not related to Brexit). It cannot be reasonable to expect forty years of increasingly bizarre entanglement to be undone in a few months but in the meantime businesses will have to cope.
Frankly I don't really care about the advantages or disadvantages and I have never emphasised either during any discussions on Brexit apart from the fact that we are no longer part of a supranational organisations with delusions beyond its status and which is run by unelected foreign bureaucrats. The fact that it can no longer interfere in our affairs (apart from those in Northern Ireland - a situation that needs urgent attention) is quite enough for me.
The fact that we are no longer members of the European Union. That is it in a nutshell. The benefits will become more apparent when the EU implodes, as it certainly will when its latest expansion plans are realised, if not before that. However, that is by the way. No nation should have sacrificed its sovereignty and submitted to a legal system that trumped its own without asking its electorate. We were never asked about any of the salami-style changes that were made to our constitution over the last four decades. Fortunately we were asked before sufficient numbers of people had been fooled into believing that our survival outside the EU was impossible. As soon as we were, the answer came.
This will cause businesses some problems (though many of those currently evident are not related to Brexit). It cannot be reasonable to expect forty years of increasingly bizarre entanglement to be undone in a few months but in the meantime businesses will have to cope.
Frankly I don't really care about the advantages or disadvantages and I have never emphasised either during any discussions on Brexit apart from the fact that we are no longer part of a supranational organisations with delusions beyond its status and which is run by unelected foreign bureaucrats. The fact that it can no longer interfere in our affairs (apart from those in Northern Ireland - a situation that needs urgent attention) is quite enough for me.
//If I was a UK farmer receiving a ‘bung’ from the EU, I’d need my head examining if I thought post-Brexit the UK government would continue with this arrangement.//
Why on Earth should it continue? Farming subsidies were a product of the post-war economy and began in the 1950s. Before we joined the EEC they were funded from general taxation and were in place specifically to address the problems of shortages which continued after WW2 had ended and to help modernise farming. They were also intended to reduce agricultural imports so as to address the balance of payments problem the UK suffered as it recovered from wartime. By the time we joined the EEC they had largely done their job. But subsidies continued (paid for by members' contributions to the EEC's budget) mainly to placate the French, who had (and to a large extent still have) a hugely inefficient farming industry. There's no reason whatsoever why the taxpayer should subsidise food production.
Why on Earth should it continue? Farming subsidies were a product of the post-war economy and began in the 1950s. Before we joined the EEC they were funded from general taxation and were in place specifically to address the problems of shortages which continued after WW2 had ended and to help modernise farming. They were also intended to reduce agricultural imports so as to address the balance of payments problem the UK suffered as it recovered from wartime. By the time we joined the EEC they had largely done their job. But subsidies continued (paid for by members' contributions to the EEC's budget) mainly to placate the French, who had (and to a large extent still have) a hugely inefficient farming industry. There's no reason whatsoever why the taxpayer should subsidise food production.
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