Does Any Fat Person Really Not Know Why They Are Fat?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58996499

[pixie374]

Sorry, meant activity.

[pixie374]

Barry, I didn't mean that can cause someone to eat too much, or not exercise enough... I meant an actual condition that can cause weight gain itself?

[barry1010]

Pixie, I have just listed several medical conditions that can cause weight gain without the patient eating more.

[pixie374]

They all involve someone eating more than they need. My question was- which conditions "cause" weight gain, themselves.

[pastafreak]

How about lipoedema? And how many would automatically assume this lady eats too much?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3296551/Obese-mother-left-tree-trunk-legs-weighing-TEN-STONE-rare-condition-despite-drastic-weight-loss-crowdfunding-13-000-liposuction.html

[davebro]

//the lighter you are, the longer you live.//

I'm not sure that's true - I read somewhere that at the older end of the spectrum it's healthier to carry a bit of XS weight.

(PS. - I eat like a bird, A GANNET!)

[pixie374]

Nobody, pasta. It's clearly swelling.

[pastafreak]

Maybe I'm a cynic pixie, but I don't doubt there are folks who would call her fat.

[pixie374]

Totally disagree, dave. The more weight there is, whether fat or muscle, the more stress on the body.

Every person I have ever seen over the last 27 years or so.... who has healthily got to over 80, is slim/skinny even.

[ToraToraTora]

the medical conditions do not overide the laws of physics, we all need energy and the fatties among us consume more than we need. There were no fat people in Belsen, end of.

[pixie374]

We'll see pasta, it just looks really obviously not fat.

[wolf63]

I am fat and have been fat since my teens - 40 years.

polycystic ovary syndrome - insulin resistance which has led to secondary diabetes. I have also developed kidney failure caused by prescribed medication, the same medication has caused cognitive disfunction and mobility issues. It is all interlinked and totally confusing and difficult to cope with.

Saying that eating too much food is the only cause of a person being fat is short-sighted.

Having said that I have lost 5 stones in the last ten years - I have no idea how I managed to do that.

[ToraToraTora]

As a read through these posts I am reminded of the picture I have on my wall with me and Jon Pall Sigmarsson, the strongest man in the world at the time, he was dead shortly after my picture was taken. Of liver failure I think. What thoroughly nice bloke!

[barry1010]

Pixie, the diabetes and steroid treatments can cause weight gain without eating more as can thyroid problems and polycystic ovary syndrome.

Referring to Belsen is a nonsense. Sick people died quickly and did not receive the treatment they needed, if it were even available at that time

[pixie374]

TTT, being overmuscled, or "exceptionally fit" isn't healthy either.
A human (or animal) body, is designed to be fit and toned. Any excesses aren't healthy.

[barry1010]

TTT, he died aged 80 of aortic rupture whilst lifting weights inthe gym - caused by congenital heart failure.

[Mamyalynne]

Jón Páll died of an aortic rupture, most likely the result of a congenital heart disorder.

[ToraToraTora]

barry: "Pixie, the diabetes and steroid treatments can cause weight gain without eating more as can thyroid problems and polycystic ovary syndrome." - then they must make the body use less energy somehow. Nothing is for Nothing, these issues do not negate the laws of physics.

[Mamyalynne]

He was 32.

[pixie374]

Barry, I have polycyclic ovaries myself. I knew I would have to watch eating straightaway. I'm not overweight.