84% Of Hospital Admissions With Covid Are Unvaccinated......

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bmj.com/content/374/bmj.n2306
....so lets stop letting the THB drag us down and get on with getting back to normal. No special measures are needed, just get on with it. Yes the link is a few weeks old but there is no reason to believe the data has changed.

[bobbinwales]

Agree that its mainly affecting them but unless we can persuade more to get the second jab it could still cause knock on problems if the numbers in hospital keep rising and it stops resources. Also infections might not be sending most infected to hoptal but the rates still mean many worksplaces and schools have high absense levels which can have knock on effects for teh economy. Its a balance is'nt it

[bobbinwales]

"and it stops resources" some words deleted in there, did say something about stops other operations/treatments going ahead

[dave50]

Absolutely right bobbin.

[mushroom25]

what it doesn't show is the total number of "breakthrough" infections. we know the jabs tend to prevent serious illness, so how many of the double-jabbed are getting reinfected but aren't being counted because they don't go to hospital?

[ToraToraTora]

irrelevant mush, that's the whole point of the vaccine, to assist us to get back to normality. For most now covid is no worse than the common cold, no point in counting that.

[riptide]

Not many people die from a common cold, many people die from covid. We must continue to be careful, I, for one would like compulsory masks brought back.

[bobbinwales]

its less relavant but is still relavant if its keeping the virus going by finding hosts who pass it on and if its effecting the economy and education- nephews local schools having a nightmare with teachers off, pupils missing practise mocks and weeks of missed lessons

[bobbinwales]

also the more times it gets past on the more chance of a variant springing up especially with lots of flights from around the world coming in again

[dave50]

Stop testing and deal with it like we do with flu then we can get back to normal.

[bobbinwales]

//Stop testing and deal with it like we do with flu then we can get back to normal.?//
And stop counting the patients and dead bodies.
It might go away? Not

[Gromit]

Problem is, the ONS works out the figure for unvaccinated based on the 2011 census and the population figure is out of date.
The difference between fully vaccinated and unvaccinated is a lot nearer using different population data. Both are probably wrong, the true figure is somewhere inbetween.

https://scx1.b-cdn.net/csz/news/800a/2021/covid-19-why-infection.jpg

[New Judge]

//It might go away? Not//

No, it won't go away. It will spread and nothing, short of placing the entire population under house arrest will prevent that. Viruses do not go away and the sooner that is accepted the better. This ridiculous notion that wearing a piece of damp rag around your face will prevent a virus spreading needs to be done down for what it is - a cynical ploy to make further controls more acceptable. No pandemic has ever been treated like this one and in ten or fifteen years' time the world will look back and wonder why on Earth it was.

[Deskdiary]

I'm double-jabbed and am now Covid free having tested positive a couple of weeks ago. Other than the ball-ache of having to WFH, which I hate, I didn't have any ill-effects at all.

Granted it affects people differently, but for the vast majority of people, at best it's just now a bit of an inconvenience.

[Peter Pedant]

// but there is no reason to believe the data has changed.//

erm yes there is: that is why you look at data collected now and not a year ago....

full moon and a normal saturday morning on AB then

[Peter Pedant]

// Viruses do not go away and the sooner that is accepted the better.//

xc small pox that is !
xc ebola that is!
sc vervet money disease that is ! in man that is!

so viruses DO go away.....
ho hum - I love AB - no one learns, you just go on shouting the same stuff still against fact......

Polio didnt go away because they shot the vaccinators in Afghanistan - more than once
does that count?

[Peter Pedant]

stop testing and DDDIIIIIEEEEEE !! - - - end of !
your life that is!

[Peter Pedant]

// what it doesn't show is the total number of "breakthrough" infections. we know the jabs tend to prevent serious illness,//

ah someone who has Biology o Level....

NEJM a few weeks ago - prison 2000 - virtually all vaccinated, 19 breakthough... follow up... short, 4 m I think it is this one
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2108479

[bobbinwales]

Newjudge why do you use emotive nonsence terms like house arrest . you used it before. Anyway would you be happy for infected mates to keep quiet and join you at your table?

[Peter Pedant]

// Covid free having tested positive a couple of weeks ago. Other than the ball-ache of having to WFH, which I hate, I didn't have any ill-effects at all.//

can I translate?

"Covid free tested positive weeks ago....... I didn't have any ill-effects at all."

shows walking well can still be infectious - which some people were having real problems understanding on another thread......

[Peter Pedant]

because he is a judge and not used to bein contradicted at work
but folks this is AB - the NORMAL world over a week end
er endof!