Bbc Breakfast Knife Crime

[grumpy01]

Just seen an interview with a mother who lost her son to knife crime.Also there was a Chief Inspector from Lancashire on a TV link.He came out with some real 21st century claptrap about working with the perpetrators to find out why they carry knives and get caught up in violence.Surely they should be attempting to get knives off the streets and not trying to be social workers,there are enough doing that already.

[TheChair]

Yes, because obviously, carrying on doing what hasn't worked for the last 20 years makes complete sense.

[grumpy01]

Surely the problem is the availability of knives.Police have been reasonably successful handling violence.

[Canary42]

Much better employing some 18th Century claptrap and using jail which hasn't worked for over 200 years.

[dannyk13]

Canary //Much better employing some 18th Century claptrap and using jail//
So what is your solution to the problem?

[davebro]

Corporal punishment. Hit 'em where it hurts. Damn savages!

[Smowball]

I have had a son who was stabbed, and it was the worst phone call I have ever had in my life. Thankfully every major organ was missed and he recovered completely, but could have so easily been another outcome. I don’t know what the answer is, but I do know it’s far far to easy to buy knives and the punishment isn’t severe enough.

[davebro]

//Surely the problem is the availability of knives.//

No that isn't the problem! Knives have been freely available since humans learnt how to work metal. What do you think would work - a locked knife cabinet in every kitchen? Get real!

[grumpy01]

Glad you’re son recovered Smowball ,it is indeed to easy to obtain knives.

[grumpy01]

Of course knives are available Davebro but the majority of these knives aren’t who you get in ProCook they’re what you can easily get off the Internet.

[grumpy01]

What you get in ProCook.

[davebro]

When I was a lad it was kind of a rite of passage getting your first sheath knife - probably with a 6" blade - that would be illegal to carry on the streets today. But we didn't go around stabbing each other or total strangers. It's the casual acceptance that violence is a way to resolve real problems or even minor grievances that's different.

[Smowball]

You can go into most shops in my local little high street and buy single blade knives - Aldi, Poundland definitely, all the little hardware shops, it’s frightening.

[grumpy01]

It is frightening.

[William51]

I think it is a sign of the times, there is a loss of respect in society and some youngsters have less inhibitions of using violence. And it is just easy to get hold of knives.

[Ken4155]

One doesn't even need to buy these knives on the internet. A few years back, whilst staying with my daughter and son in law's caravan for the week, we visited a shop on Scarborough front which openly sold a variety of goods. Including some of the fiercest looking knives i have ever seen. John Rambo would have given his right arm for possession of a few of them!

[vulcan42]

All the time police are trying to establish why a person committed a knife crime, they are wasting valuable crime prevention time.

[dannyk13]

I wonder how many shopkeepers comply with this:-
https://www.hertfordshire.gov.uk/media-library/documents/business/business-advice/guide-to-selling-knives-poster.pdf

[Mozz71]

Just be thankful our gun laws are as strict as they are, or deaths would be a daily occurrence.

[Peter Pedant]

well put The Chair - no one will listen you know

Canary //Much better employing some 18th Century claptrap and using jail// - oh god, J R M hasnt opened his mouth again, has he?
( just trying to lighten a serious discussion, AH will be after me for incongruous levity = saying the wrong thing again to you proles)

[davebro]

In Orwell's 1984 the "proles" were really the only hope for a rebellion against an extreme authoritarian regime.