Sorry To Keep Going On But.....

[dave50]

Why in all the discussions in the media about omicron does nobody ask the question why if we have the jabs is everybody panicking? All they talk about is rising infections and possible further restrictions. Its as though the vaccinations never happened. Can someone please explain?

[bookbinder]

Not everybody has had the necessary vaccination(s).

[youngmafbog]

1. Doesnt fit the agenda.

2. In Boris' case it is a useful deflection from the latest scandal.

[ToraToraTora]

dunno Dave it's unbelievable isn't it?

[davebro]

I suppose if Omicron is more easily transmitted it could run rife through the unvaccinated. Don't know how severe an illness it causes - if it's bad it could put more pressure on the NHS.

[pixie374]

Not really. Tbh, I've just about got to the point where I am sick of hearing about it all. Anyone wanting to be jabbed, will have been by now. This constant bombardment seems quite self-defeating now. And I usually have endless patience.
Particularly for older and more vulnerable people, who may have different priorities and are fed up with being patronised, so other people can feel better.
Sorry for the rant....

[Sqad]

We do not know at the present time the pathogenesis of Omicrom.
All we know is that it spreads fast....bloody fast.

Ask this question again in 3 weeks time dave.

[rowanwitch]

The vaccines do not stop you catching the virus
The vaccines seem to prevent serious illness
Omicron may be easier to catch even if you have been vaccinated
If lots of people get the infection even if it is only one in 1000 that end up in hospital in a population as large as the UK that is still a lot of extra people in hospital beds.
This is the new normal ...new variants will turn up at intervals I doubt we will live as we used to in the rest of my lifetime.

[choux]

The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation did not panic and took time to consider the question of boosters. You should allow for the hype of the media including many posts that you see on AB.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58507436

[naomi24]

I could have sworn you asked this on another thread yesterday - and I could have sworn I, among others, answered it.

[Zacs-Master]

I've not seen anyone panicking.

[dave50]

Yes I'm sorry, many of you have offered explanations but my frustration is with the media who appear to gloss over this with very little explanation or definitive answer of why the vaccines now seem to be irrelevant. Am I the only one who finds it exasperating? Also while we're at it, I'm sick of hearing on the BBC news and current affairs that we are all worried and nervous about this new varient. No we aren't, I don't know anybody at all who is. Where do they find these people they are allegedly speaking to? Rant over.

[choux]

"Rant over"

Promise? ;)

[bednobs]

you are not the only one who finds it exasperating

[bednobs]

^^^ to be clear my response was to dave not choux

[naomi24]

Dave, the vaccines are not irrelevant. No one has suggested that. They're working very well indeed - thank goodness.

[Peter Pedant]

// Its as though the vaccinations never happened.//

er nooooo
we havent read our Ladybird book of "Vacca and jabby-wabbies" , have we?
and then - "jabs, Sharp fings and uvva hospital horrors"
TTT will point out I have mis-spelt a word: it should be "hothpital"

The jab breaks the link - you wont DDDDIIIIIIIIEEEE but you may get it in lower numbers and the rish of Hospital (*) is lower

you did know this really didnt you?

(*) hoth-thpital sozza

[Peter Pedant]

// why the vaccines now seem to be irrelevant. Am I the only one who finds it exasperating? //

why the vaccines now seem to be irrelevant.
nope - only dave doo-dah on AB is saying that

Am I the only one who finds it exasperating?
probably - the rest of us are reading the information and taking a rational(*) decision

(*) rational for AB that is!

[jackthehat]

Cheer up, dave.
Only 16 more sleeps until Father Christmas visits.....

[dave50]

I hate Christmas by the way.

[Roobaba]

I don't hate anything, I try to see the good in people/events. Maybe that's my failing, people like me trying to make the world a better place ends up me being accused of something that was not what I intended. So.. I would prefer Christmas to be.. (not the time/place, maybe for another thread).

Anyway, sorry dave50 but 'the media' is not a good place to find out anything reliable about an unbiased view of current events.

I would recommend reading last weeks edition of The New Statesman, the main cover story..
'The virus strikes back - How the new variant has panicked the world. In this dark pandemic era, Omicron is only the beginning'.

Four paragraphs in it says..
'We feel entitled to normal life' - indeed we do.

And goes on to say..
'It is time to lose the innocence of youth: pretending that we can quickly return to normal is the best way to prolong the current trevails. As the WHO put it on 29 November: 'Omicron's very emergence is another reminder that although many of us might think we are done with Covid-19, it is not done with us.'

Doom and gloom, not what we want to hear at this festive and jolly time of year!

The author's recent book was Geopolitics for the end time.. so what were his final comments, he says that a well known popular US podcast host (initials J.R. for those in the know) told his listeners that young people in good health should skip the vaccine. Thus libertarianism - the government cannot plan everything - has reverted or involuted into a premodern fatalism: we must resign ourselves to fate.'

I also recommend reading the current edition of New Scientist

'We are witnessing the scenario that many people feared unfold before our eyes. The new omicron variant can largely evade prior immunity and is spreading with alarming rapidity. And the really bad news is that there is every reason to think more dangerous variants will emerge in the future.'

So, that's cheered us all up nicely :O)