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ToraToraTora | 14:52 Tue 14th Dec 2021 | News
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-59646151
"A top South African doctor says the country is mainly seeing "mild disease" and intensive care units are not overwhelmed" - they also said that a fortnight ago.
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I see no climate of fear in any walk of life. Only a dull moral sapping morass of half arsed opinion and speculation which is processed by the media and regurgitated as dumbed-down headlines designed to enrich the lives of the soap opera devouring proletariat. There. I feel better for that.
15:15 Wed 15th Dec 2021
e by gum. Tha's reyt.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpubh.2020.567184/full

Respiratory viruses, including coronaviruses, are known to have a high incidence of infection during winter, especially in temperate regions. Dry and cold conditions during winter are the major drivers for increased respiratory tract infections as they increase virus stability and transmission and weaken the host immune system.

Anything else you want to add Zacs Master ?
I just answered emmies question with a link
Your contribution was…. ?

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got agree with you there ZM, BA me old china.
My contribution was to add to the debate by way of demonstrating that there is no conclusive proof of a link between climate and the spread of CoVID19.

Oh, and to get BA ;-)
Cheers, Tora.
Zacs-Master
My contribution was to add to the debate by way of demonstrating that there is no conclusive proof of a link between climate and the spread of CoVID19.

Oh, and to get BA ;-)

Lol
Medical evidence not good enough for you ?
Nothing concrete to counter it with ?
BA from TTT ?
Oh the kudos ! Lol
//...and personally I think I'd be cautious about taking in arrivals from there.//

Why? It is now common ground that the variant is widespread in many countries, including the UK. You're just as likely to catch it from someone in Durham as you are in Durban, so what's the point of restricting arrivals from South Africa?
Just in case 2 medical links were not good enough

https://api.nationalgeographic.com/distribution/public/amp/science/article/coronavirus-why-cold-winter-weather-makes-it-harder-to-fight-respiratory-infections

That said, scientists have discovered how the changing seasons affect not only the physical structures of viruses, but also our body’s natural barriers against disease. In the winter in particular, the cold, dry air and lack of sunlight negatively affect our ability to stave off respiratory infections like the flu or the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus.
Coronavirus thrives in winter conditions.

Sticky, The medical evidence in the report you linked to concludes 'Unfortunately, we will only learn exactly how changes in the weather affect the pandemic by living through it' i.e. zero evidence.

Funny that you don't consider Tora's posts to have much kudos but see fit to contribute to his threads. An odd juxtaposition of ideals there, I feel.



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ZM: "Funny that you don't consider Tora's posts to have much kudos but see fit to contribute to his threads. An odd juxtaposition of ideals there, I feel. " - I get that a lot!
And as for your latest attempt.......

'This account is consideredthe earliest recorded study of the seasonal variability of a disease, namely influenza.'

So not COvid-19 then?

I couldn't read much more as it asks me to sign up which I'm not about to do.
///You're just as likely to catch it from someone in Durham as you are in Durban///

is that a genuine statistic or just assonance? Overall infection rates still seem to be higher in the UK, but with winter coming on I can't see anything wrong with cutting back on arrivals for infectious countries, if only to free up medical facilities for sick Brits.
Zacs-Master
Funny that you don't consider Tora's posts to have much kudos but see fit to contribute to his threads. An odd juxtaposition of ideals there, I feel.

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I never said they do not hold much kudos but most on here know that BA awarded by TTT is akin to the adage about peeing yourself in a dark suit
It gives you a warm feeling but nobody else really notices
You are in an exclusive club though with minimal membership !
Thread has gone quiet since the announcement of todays record Covid figures
Hospital admissions as a result of Covid are up 10 percent
Nothing to do with the weather though no doubt !
Are the figures the same in Johannesburg or Durban I wonder ?
//Hospital admissions as a result of Covid are up 10 percent...//

Compared to when?
I believe BJ said since last week
//...is that a genuine statistic or just assonance?//

It's neither. It's an assumption based on the fact that there are three time as many daily new infections being recorded in the UK than there are in SA. To be honest I have not drilled down into the relevant numbers for both Durban and Durham but there seems little point in preventing travel from an area with a far lower incidence of the virus than here (a point that the government seems to agree with).

//I believe BJ said since last week//

It would be more meaningful if he'd looked back to the end of October/early November then. But that may not give quite the same alarming impression he's looking for.
Quite possibly NJ
Did you also hear the bit though where Prof Whitty said that there was absolutely no correlation between SA and what is happening in UK ?
You're wasting your time TTT. The government's not listening, the so called scientists are not listening and the moral, sanctimonious lot on here are DEFINITELY not listening !! I, on the other hand, agree with you by the way ...
As a slight aside to the climate/Covid debate, my sister who lives in Joburg tells me it's the wettest, coolest summer they've had for quite some time. Maybe the climate is more like the UK, at the moment?

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