Yet Another Toddler Murdered!!

[piggynose]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-59640370

is there nothing we can do to prevent this?

sorry if this was already covered.

[emmie]

better to do something that is wildly unpopular, than leave a child open to further abuse and death at the hands of the parents. Sorry this subject makes me bloody angry.

[pixie374]

I agree- and constantly being blamed. Some have been attacked since Arthur's news came out. A brief visit, particularly in lockdown, with children not being at school, is not enough. Those numbers in your first link are quite shocking.

[pixie374]

//The Sun can reveal children taken through forced court care orders rocketed by a shocking 34 per cent from 7,550 to 10,130 last year.

Government sources told The Sun they have investigated the huge leap and that there is "no single reason" for the rise.

The explosion in care cases - with almost 73,000 children in care last year//

And not having parents, doesn't teach them how to be one either. A vicious circle.

[emmie]

no one learns to be a parent. It's often make it up as you go along.

[emmie]

you could read a hundred parenting books and still get it wrong,

[pixie374]

I mean, you learn it as you grow up, from your own parents.

[LadyCG]

I really can't bear this :-(

You can't stop evil people being evil but Social Services really need to get their act together.

[emmie]

what skills did my mum learn from her mum i wonder, how not to do it. she spent most of the time with her grandparents, due to the facct her mum worked for a living. So she wasn't learning how to be a mother. I still think that it's often pot luck if children come out unscathed.

[pixie374]

Whoever looked after her, emmie. I know a few brought up by grandparents, that's not the same as being in care though. They are still being "parented".

[naomi24]

I often think Social Services should recruit an army of ordinary mums to work with children. I bet most of them could spot an abused child from a mile away. Universities don't offer courses in common sense and experience of life.

[pixie374]

That's what I just said.

[emmie]

my mum didn't learn to be a parent, age 19 she had married and then had her first child age 20. She had little or no experience of life at all, let alone how to parent, i think she was a good mum eventually but that was after years of learning.

[emmie]

pixie, so you think that too many are taken into care?

[Cloverjo]

There’s a huge difference between being clueless about bringing up a child and being wilfully cruel, like the recent cases.

I agree about getting experienced mums in to see what’s going on in abusive households.

[emmie]

so you would get yet another person involved in these cases, fine, but all the agencies concerned have let these little children down, even though they maybe parents themselves so should take note when a child looks like little Star and poor Arthur.

[pixie374]

Sorry, emmie (had granddaughter's Christmas play...). It's not the number itself, if each and every one of those 73,000 children really need to be in care... then, they unfortunately do.
But, with the "tens of thousands unnecessarily" taken in. And others missed- it's more about making the right decision. It's a permanent, life-changing, and sometimes fatal, decision either way. Either deciding to take a child from their families, or deciding they are safe where they are.
We can't just continually get it wrong, due to time, money, places...