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It does seem to me that once people have had 2-jabs, they are fairly well protected from death or devastating illness. So, again just to my way of thinking, any other doses should be offered only to the highly vulnerable. The rest should be made available to countries where the general vaccination rate is low. Just my feelings.
20:23 Tue 04th Jan 2022
Nobody said we could boost our way out
The booster just helps to maintain a level that will greatly reduce your chance of being hospitalised if you stay topped up
Your link on the other thread actually proved it but you failed to understand your own link ! Oh dear indeed
From this link :
But Tedros insisted Wednesday that "the vaccines we have remain effective against both the Delta and Omicron variants."
"It's important to remember that the vast majority of hospitalisations and deaths are in unvaccinated people, not un-boosted people," he said.
So in short :
Getting vaccinated is the way to get out of it
The sooner everyone is
The quicker it can be dealt with and become manageable
Geddit ?
The booster just helps to maintain a level that will greatly reduce your chance of being hospitalised if you stay topped up
Your link on the other thread actually proved it but you failed to understand your own link ! Oh dear indeed
From this link :
But Tedros insisted Wednesday that "the vaccines we have remain effective against both the Delta and Omicron variants."
"It's important to remember that the vast majority of hospitalisations and deaths are in unvaccinated people, not un-boosted people," he said.
So in short :
Getting vaccinated is the way to get out of it
The sooner everyone is
The quicker it can be dealt with and become manageable
Geddit ?
Roy does not accept that the majority, never mind the 'vast majority of deaths and hospitalisation's are in unvaxccinated . In fact am pretty sure myself it's not the vast majority either especially for deaths. If someone from a hospital says its lies or bbc but, if official data shows it its bbc and goverment lies.
^ to be clear that's what roy and spicerack are saying.
Me I have no doubt that an unvaxxed is much more likely than a vaxxed person to end up in hospital but I'd agree the data seem's overexaggarated sometimes like when someone in usa said it was '19 times more likely'.
Seems pointless though trying to use data with those who's convinced the bbc, goverment, scientists and health professionals are lying to get us to have this vaccinne for some unstated secret reason
Me I have no doubt that an unvaxxed is much more likely than a vaxxed person to end up in hospital but I'd agree the data seem's overexaggarated sometimes like when someone in usa said it was '19 times more likely'.
Seems pointless though trying to use data with those who's convinced the bbc, goverment, scientists and health professionals are lying to get us to have this vaccinne for some unstated secret reason
// Boris Johnson has urged people to get their booster vaccine as he said up to 90% of those in intensive care had not had their third Covid jabs. //
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Blaming the BBC when they are just reporting what our Prime Minister is saying is just people looking for scapegoats.
Our PM is bandying this stat in an effort to encourage those who are eligible to get boosted asap.
OK, you dispute the info, but is that a good enough reason not to get jabbed when the Omicron variant hasn’t peaked yet?
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Blaming the BBC when they are just reporting what our Prime Minister is saying is just people looking for scapegoats.
Our PM is bandying this stat in an effort to encourage those who are eligible to get boosted asap.
OK, you dispute the info, but is that a good enough reason not to get jabbed when the Omicron variant hasn’t peaked yet?
Good post gromit.
It's right to say we can't just boost our way out.
Boosters are key but we also need to remain careful, test , isolate when posative, encourage more to have first and second jabs, maintain social distancing, meet outdoors where possible or limit numbers indoors and use ventilation...and maybe look at vaccinating 8-12 year olds
It's right to say we can't just boost our way out.
Boosters are key but we also need to remain careful, test , isolate when posative, encourage more to have first and second jabs, maintain social distancing, meet outdoors where possible or limit numbers indoors and use ventilation...and maybe look at vaccinating 8-12 year olds
I think Tedros is speaking from a global perspective. I’m which case he is of course correct.
However politically it is simply not an option not to drive booster campaigns and indeed I think it makes no sense not to do that until
a) the distribution system is improved
b) there is a proper campaign to encourage people in these countries actually to come forward to be vaccinated.
I presume the OP would not be against that?
However politically it is simply not an option not to drive booster campaigns and indeed I think it makes no sense not to do that until
a) the distribution system is improved
b) there is a proper campaign to encourage people in these countries actually to come forward to be vaccinated.
I presume the OP would not be against that?
ichkeria
I think Tedros is speaking from a global perspective. I’m which case he is of course correct.
However politically it is simply not an option not to drive booster campaigns and indeed I think it makes no sense not to do that until
a) the distribution system is improved
b) there is a proper campaign to encourage people in these countries actually to come forward to be vaccinated.
I presume the OP would not be against that?
No idea
Spiceroy did a runner immediately after posting and my first reply
Funny that !
I think Tedros is speaking from a global perspective. I’m which case he is of course correct.
However politically it is simply not an option not to drive booster campaigns and indeed I think it makes no sense not to do that until
a) the distribution system is improved
b) there is a proper campaign to encourage people in these countries actually to come forward to be vaccinated.
I presume the OP would not be against that?
No idea
Spiceroy did a runner immediately after posting and my first reply
Funny that !
Gromit
// Boris Johnson has urged people to get their booster vaccine as he said up to 90% of those in intensive care had not had their third Covid jabs. //
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They keep repeating it but some ABers appear to be too dumb to understand it
//Up to 90% of Covid patients in ICU are unboosted, says Boris Johnson//
//Boris Johnson has urged people to get their booster vaccine as he said up to 90% of those in intensive care had not had their third Covid jabs.//
//“I’m sorry to say this but the overwhelming majority of people who are currently ending up in intensive care in our hospitals are people who are not boosted,” he said. “I’ve talked to doctors who say the numbers are running up to 90% of people in intensive care.”//
// Boris Johnson has urged people to get their booster vaccine as he said up to 90% of those in intensive care had not had their third Covid jabs. //
_____________________________________
They keep repeating it but some ABers appear to be too dumb to understand it
//Up to 90% of Covid patients in ICU are unboosted, says Boris Johnson//
//Boris Johnson has urged people to get their booster vaccine as he said up to 90% of those in intensive care had not had their third Covid jabs.//
//“I’m sorry to say this but the overwhelming majority of people who are currently ending up in intensive care in our hospitals are people who are not boosted,” he said. “I’ve talked to doctors who say the numbers are running up to 90% of people in intensive care.”//
A change of opinion or tack now roy ?
Boris got his wording wrong in his excitement to deliver his message
That is obvious
So many politicians have got their figures wrong so far through incorrect wording in all of this that nobody listens to them
That is why people prefer it to come from the medical experts mouths themselves
Just like the one from the WHO you posted about in the OP yes ?
As I pointed out to you in my very first post
Read again what he said
Boris got his wording wrong in his excitement to deliver his message
That is obvious
So many politicians have got their figures wrong so far through incorrect wording in all of this that nobody listens to them
That is why people prefer it to come from the medical experts mouths themselves
Just like the one from the WHO you posted about in the OP yes ?
As I pointed out to you in my very first post
Read again what he said
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