Will Partygate Be Enough To Get Rodders Into No 10 In 2024?

[ToraToraTora]

....if not then what would have to happen before labour could win?

[Stickybottle]

They will not win
But Boris is sadly giving them the rope to hang him with

Nice deflection thread though
Are you a Boris adviser ?

[Kardashev]

I think Labour need Scotland and that's pretty well in the hands of the SNP for now.

[Gromit]

Don’t particular want Starmer in No.10 in 3 years time.
But I would be pleased if Johnson left No.10 tomorrow. He is clearly out of his depth. He has lost his party, and the public don’t trust him. A liability, so the men in grey suits need to act now.

[ToraToraTora]

Well if they do dump Boris they'll have to find someone squeaky clean or partygate will roll on.

[Stickybottle]

What Gromit said

[ToraToraTora]

ok but how are they going to find someone who did not attend some sort of bash?

[Gromit]

Kardashev
A coalition is a possibility. The SNP and Labour hate each other, but they both hate the Tories more. If mathematically it works in 2024, then a pact will happen. The only way Sturgeon will get her IndyRef2.

[ToraToraTora]

good point gromit, old seaweed could well agree to a coalition if she gets Diffdepref2. Bit like Cleggy with AV and the FTPA in 2010 under Dave.

[Stickybottle]

ToraToraTora
ok but how are they going to find someone who did not attend some sort of bash?

None of them will be squeaky clean
But today has shown that if asked about such events they will be better to front up now rather than issue a smokescreen and grovelling apology some 20 months later

[Kardashev]

yes Mr Gromit no doubt a coalition is possible. Interesting though that you'd think on paper that the SNP being a nationalist party would have more in common with the Tories.

[davebro]

Politics in this country is a crock - how can we tolerate a significant & possibly power-broking party (SNP) that wants to break up the union into our national parliament. It's ludicrous.

[ToraToraTora]

well it's difficult for labour if they did a deal and Scotland then left the union, they'd guarantee they never got back into power again.

[youngmafbog]

No, 'partygate' in itself wont do it.

However if Johnson doesnt go then I think there is a distinct possibility of labour getting power. On top of the potential agreements with the SNP there is the big possibility of people passing a protest vote for parties like the Reform Party. Those parties may not win but could well swing the balance of power.

If the Tories want to win Johnson has to go. And the sooner the better.

[ichkeria]

No way is there going to be a Labour/SNP coalition.
Ideally Labour might already be reaching out to the SNP for some sort of accommodation over another referendum but you only have to think back to 2015 where the Tories made great capital of scaremongering about a Labour SNP pact.
It’s a hard road for Labour to actually win a majority (a lot less hard to merely wipe out or almost the Tory majority). Especially as now deprived of Scottish seats. That’s Johnson’s big electoral
plus really - perhaps the only one: he helps the SNP keep Labour out in Scotland.
However a lot will depend on the state of the economy, who the Tory leader is etc etc.

[Hopkirk]

I doubt if Jeremy Hunt attended any of these parties.
(Not invited, but more sense than to go)

[Stickybottle]

ichkeria
However a lot will depend on the state of the economy, who the Tory leader is etc etc.

Sunak or Javed I reckon

[Hopkirk]

Liz Truss?

[ichkeria]

The other thing is: if Johnson does go how bloody will the aftermath be?
They’d need to get him out pretty soon if they’re to go through all that and get nicely washed and dressed and made up for the next election

[aelmpvw]

surely if the cons have a more credible leader than Boris, any remote chance or rodders winning an election will be gone. The labour leader's shooting himself in the foot . . .

[Stickybottle]

Hopkirk
Liz Truss?

Sounds too much like Lost Trust

Lol !