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Prince Andrew is an arrogant buffoon and always has been, and on balance I suspect he probably did shag Giuffre, so he's paid her off to make the court case go away, and he will now forever be tainted. But... What happened to Giuffre wanting her day in court and it not being about money? Surely the fact that American civil cases are generally settled on the steps of...
07:59 Wed 16th Feb 2022
Yes I did jno, to help other victims for one.

If one of my sons had behaved like PA I would be utterly ashamed of him.
17 15 - lets see the original.... (Prince A for it is he)

oo sozza princey, the original photo has been lawst......(lawyers)
and 'oo I put it in a very secret place. I am sure it is still there let me just check' - v Giuffre
The Queen will do as some Mothers do (mine included), they will inwardly fume whilst not discussing their 'Blue eyed boy's behaviour.
bobbi^^^ I don't think you should call him a 'nonce',( kiddyfiddler, paedophile) . For goodness sake she was 16/17 years old, had lived with a registered sex offender for years. Not exactly a blushing innocent virgin. She was a highly paid career prostitute .
As for the Queen , I think she is strong enough to rise above being ashamed. She will probably have given Andrew a good tongue lashing and told him to sort himself out.
If anyone it's the children I feel sorry for. Guiffres' as well as Andrews.
As I posted a few weeks ago, ninety per cent of cases like this are settled out of court.

It does avoid Andrew having to stand up in court and be cross-examined, which would be wholesale disaster for him.

But it will always leave the huge question - if he was as innocent as he claimed, why did he settle and not see her in court to defend himself.

There are no winners here.
//did anyone read as far as the bit saying the payment was going to charity? Seemingly not. It's way down in the third paragraph.//

It says a payment is going to the charity, it doesn't say that no payment is going to VG personally.
And will she go after anyone else?
Beeb Fluffies and legal commentators have no idea

Interesting idea - Dershowitz said he was covered by a previous agreement and got off
Princey tried that and -- - didnt.
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Andre’s , I was using the term that Ken used when I was answering him
I would imagine that in PA's mlnd, it's all over now, just a little unpleasant misunderstanding, time to get the uniforms back on and flying to foreign golf courses for free.

I rather think that here on Planet Earth, where the rest of us live, it will be quite that easy for him to move on.
// - if he was as innocent as he claimed, why did he settle and not see her in court to defend himself.//

because it costs too much and takes too much time
and they may have said - "dont bother you are ruined anyway"

I had one dear old bagga say - "I am going to say I done it ( not a sex crime) as it gets it out of the way and the fine will not be large"

The magistrate said - "there is doubt. Are you sure you want to do this?" - - and then DIDNT throw the case out. Yup he found him guilty even tho he didnt think the old bagga had done it !


Let's hope he stays in the background and out of any further mischief.

It's the least he can do for his Mum.
Canary - // Let's hope he stays in the background and out of any further mischief. //

If he does, it will be because Charles makes him - he won't do it from his own choice, ever.
//She was a highly paid career prostitute//

Absolute rubbish, she was a victim of abuse who was living on the streets aged 14 and picked up and groom by Epstein until he tired of her because she was "too old".

She later met and married an Aussie fella, whom she been happily married to ever since.

If that's your idea of a "career prostitute" then you need your head examining.
So there's perhaps an "Aussie fella" lurking behind this story? Hmm!
And i didn't directly call him a nonce, Andres. However, he was accused of having sex with the lass in states where she was below the legal age. Therefore, in the eyes of their laws, she was still a child and someone who has unlawful sex with an underage person is labelled a nonce.
Mozz - // //She was a highly paid career prostitute//

Absolute rubbish, she was a victim of abuse who was living on the streets aged 14 and picked up and groom by Epstein until he tired of her because she was "too old".

She later met and married an Aussie fella, whom she been happily married to ever since.

If that's your idea of a "career prostitute" then you need your head examining. //

I was going to challenge that view, and any others that will doubtless come along with the same response.

But to be honest, I am simply too tired of trying to plait fog putting a point of view to people whose cast-iron prejudices let them decide and pronounce on someone else's circumstances, based only on media nonsense and a deeply unpleasant need to judge and condemn complete strangers.

So thanks for picking up the baton - all power to you.
Ken - // ... and someone who has unlawful sex with an underage person is labelled a nonce. //

But only fairly labelled if convicted - the prince has not been convicted.
I agree with Davebro. She was suing for damages. It says he will pay an amount to charity but it doesn’t say she won’t be receiving a payment. What happened to her insistence that she wouldn’t settle out of court?
She'll be rubbing her grubby hands all the way to the bank now. I personally feel this was about nothing but the money all along.
I am no supporter of Prince Andrew,
but I have to agree with Andre's
Bobbisox is way out of order calling him a Nonce.

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