450 Russian Dead So Far

[Stickybottle]

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-crisis-russia-has-failed-to-take-any-of-its-major-objectives-and-has-lost-450-personnel-defence-secretary-ben-wallace-says-12550928

Whilst true figures will always be disputed I wonder what Putin would consider to be an acceptable number for him to achieve his aims ?
I understand it is a moot point as the human cost of lives lost will not register with him regardless of whether it is Russian soldiers or Ukrainian civilians

What would be an uncomfortable number before the Duma or his own generals acted ?

[ichkeria]

It's very sad that so many Russians have already perished shooting at their brothers and sisters.
No idea how many. A hell of a lot I would suggest.

[ichkeria]

1000 so far according to Ukraine’s defence ministry.
Not verified of course.

That number us going to get much bigger I’m afraid

[sevenOP]

"Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy says 137 civilians and military personnel have been killed so far in the Russian invasion of his country."

https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-deaths-fighting-people-flee/31721630.html

[ichkeria]

Russian military claim 200 Ukrainian servicemen died at Hostomel airfield

Again not verified

[Bazile]

What's the strength of Ukraine's opposition ?

Soldiers , tanks etc

[Stickybottle]

No real idea tbh Bazile

It will fluctuate in terms of armed forces/counter insurgents anyway
Especially given that 18,000 machine guns alone is being given to Kyiv citizens to defend their homeland with

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60517447

[Atheist]

Putin will be glad to see some of 'our lads' killed - it will, he hopes, bring the Russian public behind him as he seeks to protect the motherland from the dastardly enemy.

[ichkeria]

I doubt it.
The more Russians who die the worse for him. In 2014-15 they were able to sneak the body bags back and no doubt pay the parents to keep quiet

In all ways military hardware wise Russia is superior although Ukraine has very good and plentiful anti-tank weaponry.
Mostly in the east tho and that’s where the best combat troops are

[Stickybottle]

Atheist
Putin will be glad to see some of 'our lads' killed - it will, he hopes, bring the Russian public behind him as he seeks to protect the motherland from the dastardly enemy.
———-
Families tend to think the opposite when seeing their loved ones brought home under a flag and will rail against Putin

An ever increasing death toll against what many Russians see as their brethren and friends will barely be reported in the state run media

[ichkeria]

He’s been referring to the Ukraine government as “drug addicts and nazis”
Even allowing for his desire to play to the home crowd, that sounds unhinged

[Hopkirk]

He might not need body bags. There are reports that the Russians have mobile crematoriums to dispose of the war dead.

[Mozz71]

There are rumours that the Russians attecked a Ukrainian kindergarten. 50 kids "affected" but no confirmation or further details as yet.

[naomi24]

I think propaganda is rife …as always.

[Mozz71]

That's why I stated they were rumours, as yet unconfirmed. The truth will out in time I'm sure.

[Atheist]

Sticky; I think on the whole that despite the grieving parents there will tend to be a lot of blame and hatred arising from the fact that foreigners are killing 'our lads'. Did Falklands casualties make the British public want to give up? For every grieving parent there are hundreds of armchair warriors.

[ichkeria]

Don’t forget that attacks can hit the wrong targets
That does not make it any better
Ukraine already has most of the world on its side. They don’t need to make this sort of stuff up

[tiggerblue10]

https://metro.co.uk/2022/02/25/russia-ukraine-taliban-calls-for-peaceful-resolution-to-crisis-16174231/?ito=article.tablet.share.top.link

If this is true, the irony is breathtaking.

[gulliver1]

Bloody heck , think Putin is a bigger liar than Boris.
......Nah thats impossible.

[Stickybottle]

Atheist
Sticky; I think on the whole that despite the grieving parents there will tend to be a lot of blame and hatred arising from the fact that foreigners are killing 'our lads'
——
But as I said Atheist this is different
They will not see them as foreigners
They speak the same language and were once part of the USSR
Some of them may even be attacking their own extended or distant families

[Mozz71]

18:47. That's amazing Tiggs. I wonder if they managed to keep a straight face?