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youngmafbog | 13:35 Wed 02nd Mar 2022 | News
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"he probably joined up so he could sue for a pay day."

Why would he have done that?
Looks like the trouble making sort to me, what did he expect in the army? The Ritz?
"Looks like the trouble making sort to me"

What is that based upon?
I wonder if "Tommy Atkins" will sue cos it was a bit hot in Afghanistan, and the M.O.D had no aircon in the tents plus his skin went a bit dark in the sun?
None of this is new - sticking with the topic, this link is from 2009.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/mod-facing-pound-5m-payout-to-coldinjury-troops-1706227.html

The largest number of claims are for hearing loss/damage.
I believe Mr Iyegudu's complaint is based on him not being given appropriate clothing for the cold weather exercise.

The complaint alleges he developed a 'non-freezing injury' which left him more vulnerable to chilly temperatures in both his hands and feet, leading to him having to leave the Army.

The case probably rest on whether a) this is provable and b) whether it provable that that a duty of care was missed.

Regarding future recruitment of Africans...there are many serving officers of African heritage in the forces and each should be treated as an individual.

Same with any future applicants.

One case (especially one that hasn't gone to court yet) should not be regarded as a precedent.
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//I believe Mr Iyegudu's complaint is based on him not being given appropriate clothing for the cold weather exercise.//

And if he was sent to war in a cold place? I bet he'd be moaning he wasnt trained in 'making do' and getting on with it.

We are not talking the Boys Brigade here, its going to be a tough hard environment. Like I said, this sort of thing enables people who think like Putin.
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//.there are many serving officers of African heritage in the forces and each should be treated as an individual.//

So if someone feels a bit cold he should be treated differently (and that would be regardless of creed or colour)? Well that would work well on the battle field wouldnt it.
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If he were sent to a conflict in a cold climate I'd expect him to be provided with suitable clothing. The core issue (as reported - we don't have the details) is that he wasn't and as a result suffered an injury.

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//And if he was sent to war in a cold place? I bet he'd be moaning he wasnt trained in 'making do' and getting on with it.//

is conjecture. We don't know the man so it doesn't serve the discussion to make bets on what he would or wouldn't do in a hypothetical situation.

"So if someone feels a bit cold" - that may be trivialising the complaint. From the report it sounds as if he suffered permanent injury. Medical evidence will prove or disprove this.

And people in the army *are* treated differently based on physical attributes. As more women joined elite forces, it was noted that they were "twice as likely to suffer musculoskeletal injuries during initial training".

This part of the report is key:

//The MOD is undertaking a review to establish the physical standards required for ground close combat, which is due to complete in 2019.

'It will be based upon the principle that any standards will be related to the required role rather than individual characteristics.'//

From here:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3521538/Army-fitness-tests-written-make-sure-female-soldiers-qualify-line-duty.html

If people of African heritage are more prone to injury through cold weather training then it's right that this should be dealt with.

...or he could be talking cobblers and if so the case won't be proven.
// PP, what on earth are you on about?//

o god read it - someone complaining about being cold is irrelevant to Putin and Ukraine which is v cold

we read: we learn - well some of us do

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