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ichkeria | 08:26 Wed 22nd Jun 2022 | News
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“What’s happening” I don’t hear anyone cry - and the BBC for one appears to have stopped it’s live reporting for now - but I’ll tell you anyway :-)

In E Ukraine the stalemate largely persists with the last two major towns in Luhansk still holding out. Russians attempt to advance on them from south - Popasna - and north - Izium. There’s a lot of “come and go” with villages swapping sides.
Various Ukrainian counteroffensives continue west of Izium (Kharkiv region) and in western Donetsk region.
Ukraine military appears to have taken out a number of large ammunition warehouses around Donetsk city.
Kharkiv comes under sustained attack from missiles fired from across the border and its thought the Russians might try to push back as close to the city as possible to recommence artillery barrages even if taking the city itself is plainly beyond them.

To the south Ukrainian forces continue to advance slowly in Kherson and Zaporizhzhya regions. Partisans operate in occupied Kherson city and Melitopol in particular; assassinating local collaborating officials and Russians.

At sea Ukraine has begun deploying harpoon missiles against Russian military vessels, oil rigs, and Snake Island in the W Black Sea has been attacked causing serious damage and losses to the Russian base there.

Meanwhile this short report via RFE gives a flavour of life on the front line
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I think there's an air of despondency about it now - possibly because the plethora of 'positive news' of Ukrainian determination, fortitude at military successes earlier on gave the impression that it would be rather more short-lived than it's proving to be.
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I am not sure anyone expected this to be short.
What is happening now is exactly what was predicted: namely an attritional artillery and tank battle.
I smile when I hear people say "this war might last until the end of the war"
Yeah, no kidding :-)
If we're lucky ...
And if we are getting less and less news,then the Russia population are getting none at all. Not good.
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"until the end of the year" (!)
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There is plenty of news: just less in real time.
Much of the real time stuff is v sensitive - they are trying to restrict information about Kherson for example for military security reasons - and much therefore necessarily unconfirmed, which means the BBC etc don't touch it for several days, by which time ...
I don't know what was 'expected' or by whom - but I do know what was hoped for and I do think there's now an air of despondency. I feel despondent about it at least. I still can hardly believe this is happening in 21dt century Europe - and confess I can't stand to finish watching the news bulletins at times. I have to switch it off.
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Don't confuse boredom with despondency.
It's human nature to react to a big news story and then gradually to lose interest as time goes by: that applies both to the media and the general public. At the start it was "oh look: plucky Ukraine hasn't been conquered in three days like we thought! Hurrah!"
Then "oh fab! Russia hasn't taken Kyiv -or Kharkiv"
But they were never going to go away. That's the hard, dull and ever more brutal bit. And it goes on regardless of what the public abroad thinks of it.
Ich, Channel 4 News have regular (almost nightly) updates on what's happening in Ukraine. Last night's report said that Ukrainian soldiers had been pushed back in Sievierodnetsk, taking refuge in a chemical plant, drawing comparisons with the steel plant in Mariupol. The report also said that a large number of civilians were also in the plant.
//Don't confuse boredom with despondency. //

Oh I don't. It's a hard heart that becomes 'bored' with it. It's not entertainment.
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That's what I mean tho ken: that's frankly old news. Which is still great, but ... old nonetheless :-)
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I wasn't, by the way, trying to badmouth a preceived lack of coverage, just provide some info.
Ben Stiller went to (war torn) Kiev to discuss military tactics with Elenski. That's got to be good news, right?
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my Russian friends are getting there war news by using VPN's to get through the web blocking.(and no, there not backing their president)
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Not enough people can be bothered/know how to do that though.

Easier to sit in front of Rossiya-1 and watch the Solovyov rant :-)
And I don’t blame people for that either
0615 Radio 4 - "Snake island - as you know was involved in the sinking of the German vessel.." oops Russian I mean

I reproved the silly careless fellow by email ( and suggested he would be at home on AB)

and they ran a russian side of Zaporhizna
zapping it with heavy artillery and saying in Russian
"this, BBC is the smell of Victory and Peace, tovarich"
thx to col kilgore, apocalypse now
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Snake Island now looks pretty scorched!
Satellite imagery shows a large tower the Russians built destroyed.
It also appears that a Ukr APV somehow managed to get through air defences and blow up an oil refinery in Rostov region.
False flag? You surely wouldn’t do that to your own oil?
Would you??
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0615 Radio 4 - "Snake island - as you know was involved in the sinking of the German vessel.." oops Russian I mean ”

What??
Russia is sinking its own vessels now?
Perhaps it was too early in the morning for them
The West need to do much more to support Ukraine, but I fear the only way this war would come to an early close would be the removal of Putin.
2.21 That's good news then . thanks
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German Panzerhaubitze howitzers arrived in Ukraine today :-)

As for removing Putin, that would depend who did it. General SVR on telegram, who has an air of authenticity about him, reckons Putin wants his daughter to take over next year …

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