Ok Who's Going Out Today Then?

[ToraToraTora]

I predict Braverman will go out this round. What say you?

[jno]

isn't that what Tories want, Fatticus? Someone who follows Boris's policies but just doesn't spend his/her time partying and lying about it?

It's the same question as "who would replace Putin?" Answer: a mini-Putin.

Anyway, the forthcoming Mordaunt victory will be a boost to trans people everywhere and make the party look almost modern.

[youngmafbog]

And potentially alienate 50% of the voters to appease less than 1%

[FatticusInch]

Not sure Johnson even had any policies or plan jno, he seemed to pretty much wing it on a weekly basis, bang on about Brexit(now a shambles) and how he(almost personally if he was to be believed) delivered the vaccine.
All we ever heard was ‘get on with the job of delivering for the British people’ but I’m yet to avail myself of exactly what that was?!

[jno]

50%? You possibly overestimate the numbers of your tribe.

It's not even in the top nine issues for Tories

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2021/08/immigration-and-asylum-are-now-most-important-issues-conservative-voters

[Ken4155]

A definite swing in the betting. Mordaunt - untarnished by the Johnson brush - is now the odds-on jolly;

https://www.bet365.com/#/AC/B157/C20699338/D1/E49697441/F2/

[Peter Pedant]

// isn't that what Tories want, Fatticus? Someone who follows Boris's policies but just doesn't spend his/her time partying and lying about it?//

you can see why the Great and Good Leaders we have,
say, I am so great and so good - I really have to stay !

[gulliver1]

Fci @ 15.44 my thoughts exactly.
The Tory party might want Sunak for PM, but will the British Public ,come the G/E . After all we all know real reason why the public voted for Brexit.

[Untitled]

"Loony Left" (80s/90s)

"P.C. Gone mad!" (2000s)

"Social Justice Warriors" (early 2010s)

"Woke" (present)

just a different name for the same rightist bogeyman... going back to the postwar "reds under the bed"

it's an old old trick. in a few years there'll be a new name...

[naomi24]

Crikey! Has this nonsense really been going on for that long?

[ichkeria]

As someone said recently: “I’d rather be woke than an ignorant bar steward”
A bit extreme but I sympathise with the sentiment

[naomi24]

It’s eminently possible to be neither, ich.

[ichkeria]

“The Tory party might want Sunak for PM”

Well apparently they don’t although by the time a GE comes along I suspect who said what about Johnson, who was “loyal” who wasn’t, will largely be forgotten

[FatticusInch]

ichkeria
//“The Tory party might want Sunak for PM”

Well apparently they don’t although by the time a GE comes along I suspect who said what about Johnson, who was “loyal” who wasn’t, will largely be forgotten//

As has been pointed out by several political commentators recently:
I’m sure the opposition parties will remind them come the time.

[FatticusInch]

‘Them’ bring the electorate.

[ichkeria]

Well I was going to mention that but I still think Johnson will be a cold topic by then.
Things like the economy will matter a lot more

[FatticusInch]

ichkeria
//Well I was going to mention that but I still think Johnson will be a cold topic by then.
Things like the economy will matter a lot more//

Obviously Johnson will be, those complicit and in cahoots at the time will have a rough ride over it I suspect.

[ichkeria]

Maybe.
I personally don’t see the point in raking it over constantly - certainly not by 2024.

[FatticusInch]

Well, it’s all a question of what behaviour one will tolerate and whether loyalty to misbehaviour in public office will be scrutinised.
I’ve no doubt it will.

[burlyshirley]

Just said on the radio, Braverman out and Sunak in the lead - NO !!!

[Untitled]

boris johnson will continue to harm the image of his party but he definitely won’t be the deciding issue in 2024… unless he somehow manages to cling to power or remain in cabinet he will be yesterday’s man.