Well If The Ruskies Think Liz Will Be Bad Then She Must Be The Right One!

[youngmafbog]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11059931/Kremlin-claims-Liz-Truss-unfit-control-nuclear-button.html

[Peter Pedant]

o goodness I thought this was Her maj with her arthritic finger on the button - - - well OK but could be! -

but it is an AB foo walla bing bang question - ho hum, the world never changes

[steg]

Don’t they usually mean the opposite of what they say?

[sandyRoe]

Yes, could be a double bluff.

[ichkeria]

I have to say it’s the only reason I’m backing her.
The Russian ambassador in London is probably still smarting from his Feb 24 dressing down.
And Ben Wallace is backing her too which barring accidents probably just about clinches it for her.

[ichkeria]

I’ve been trying to think of a term for this sort of Russian tv: the second word be “porn” I know that :-)

[ichkeria]

The Kremlin and state tv shouldn’t be confused.
The Kremlin just lies: most of the stuff on tv isn’t lies: it’s just demented abuse

[Ellipsis]

> Don’t they usually mean the opposite of what they say?

Yes, or the opposite of the opposite, or ...

Fact is, the Russians (and others) are likely to have more dirt on Sunak than they do on Truss, simply because of the nature of his, his wife's and his in-laws' business dealings. You don't get to build and handle that much money without running into some dirt somewhere, for example paying the unavoidable bribes to get shipments or people from A to B safely in some areas. It would be very easy to use such apparently dodgy dealings against Sunak when the time is right - maybe even before the final vote!

[steg]

//I’ve been trying to think of a term for this sort of Russian tv: the second word be “porn” I know that :-)//

Porn?
Well you could call it ‘collider porn’, if it gives you a hadron

[ichkeria]

Any “dirt” Russia might have on anyone has long since lost its impact, ever since their mask came off several months ago
And I’d include Trump in that.

It would be like someone drowning in a slurry tank telling a passerby they had dogshit on their shoe

They are the moral custodians of precisely nothing

[Ellipsis]

Ich, I don't think the fact that Russia is morally bankrupt stops them being able to use dirt against people who still have a reputation to maintain. Often, we don't even know the real source of information.

We've already seen how the slightest thing, like "Your wife has non-dom status", can throw a spanner in the works ...

[ichkeria]

Why do you think Russia might have “dirt” on Rishi Sunak?

I am afraid I stand by what I say in any case.

[Ellipsis]

> likely to have more dirt on Sunak than they do on Truss, simply because of the nature of his, his wife's and his in-laws' business dealings. You don't get to build and handle that much money without running into some dirt somewhere, for example paying the unavoidable bribes to get shipments or people from A to B safely in some areas.

[FatticusInch]

I’m sure the Russians have all they need in regards to handling her at a later date.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1570442/Dan-Walker-Liz-Truss-Russian-donor-BBC-car-crash-debate/amp

[ichkeria]

The only lever the Russians ever have over anyone is that that person has been mixed up (usually unwittingly) in their own dirty money: Trump is a classic example.
I may be wrong, but I don't see Sunak or Truss falling in that category. And even then, who'd believe them. Most people seem not to believe the stuff about Trump, and even then it doesn't appear to have done him much harm

[Bobbisox1]

//// They said she was unstable ////
Considering who their leader is , that’s rich

[ichkeria]

The idea that the Russians are some sort of financial ethics police waititng to strike is laughable.
Fatticus's example illustrates my point: all they can do is embarrass by association, which if you think about it isn't really all that effective (I don't thik
Like I say, it hasn't done the Trump or the Tories any harm so far.

[ichkeria]

And Dan Walker is not afaik, an agent of the FSB :-)

//// They said she was unstable ////
Considering who their leader is , that’s rich

Well, quite

[ichkeria]

"We've already seen how the slightest thing, like "Your wife has non-dom status", can throw a spanner in the works ... "

Yes that is very true, but is also depends who is saying it ...

[Ellipsis]

Well it wouldn't be the Russians directly. It would be seeded on social media or through some willing or unwitting journalist or blogger.

[Ellipsis]

Eventually, because it was basically true, it would find its way into the popular media.