Well If The Ruskies Think Liz Will Be Bad Then She Must Be The Right One!

[youngmafbog]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11059931/Kremlin-claims-Liz-Truss-unfit-control-nuclear-button.html

[ichkeria]

Yes and it would be a lie.
The good news is (and this goes back to ymb's original point), if they're out to get you, even if anonymously, then you must be doing something right.
Like I say, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.
I'd be far more converned about the UK press.

[Ellipsis]

Maybe I'm not making myself clear.

It would originate with Russia, which has the means and motive to dig up this stuff and spread it. It would end up in the UK press, and it wouldn't be a lie. It would be one of the unfortunate truths that big business has to deal with. A business with the size and distribution of, say, Infosys cannot have totally clean hands.

[ichkeria]

I disagree that Russia has the means to produce authentic “dirt” on anyone.
They have the motive and possibly the means to make stuff up. Or taint by association with their good selves.
As previously stated

[Ellipsis]

OK, we agree to disagree :)

[FatticusInch]

ichkeria
//The idea that the Russians are some sort of financial ethics police waititng to strike is laughable.
Fatticus's example illustrates my point: all they can do is embarrass by association, which if you think about it isn't really all that effective (I don't thik//

Putting £2.3 million in the Tory coffers and having an ex KGB chief as a close friend sure helps though.

[jno]

people who damn the Russians as untrustworthy liars suddenly imagine they're telling the truth when it suits them. My guess is they'd much sooner have Truss in charge than Sunak and are smart enough to see that the most they can do to ensure this happens is to claim the opposite.

[Ellipsis]

> people who damn the Russians as untrustworthy liars

Just untrustworthy ... liars when it suits them. Not all Russians, you understand ...

[Ken4155]

Steg @ 15;19 - "Porn? Well you could call it collider porn if iy gives you a hadron."

Quite brilliant :-))

[Atheist]

The OP is just about the Daily Mail writing a story designed to promote their favourite for next PM. Possibly they are assuming that most of their readers wouldn't favour a not-very-pale PM, whereas a woman who likes to sell herself as a new Thatcher might be acceptable even though she is not a man. Who knows? Just a thought.

[Peter Pedant]

// Fact is, the Russians (and others) are likely to have more dirt on Sunak than they do on Truss,//

yeah but no but - that is not the only criterion innit?
They had a lot on St Trump and didnt use it because he was their pussy cat anyway ( ergo other things must count)

trump - I can see if they speak Russian they must be Russian ( Crimea)

[tomus42]

Russian propaganda aimed at a Russian audience recycled as Daily Mail propaganda aimed at a Tory audience.

Ie, meaningless.

[ichkeria]

“ people who damn the Russians as untrustworthy liars suddenly imagine they're telling the truth when it suits them. My guess is they'd much sooner have Truss in charge than Sunak”

I actually doubt it.
But who knows.
This is rot-your-brain tv for the gullible at home and not to be taken seriously.
The Kremlin lies about its crimes and says one thing while doing the opposite.
But in TV land they probably coincidentally pick on Truss as she’s higher profile there.
I doubt much thought goes into it beyond that.

[FatticusInch]

Avatar Image ichkeria
“ people who damn the Russians as untrustworthy liars suddenly imagine they're telling the truth when it suits them. My guess is they'd much sooner have Truss in charge than Sunak”

/I actually doubt it.
But who knows.
This is rot-your-brain tv for the gullible at home and not to be taken seriously.
The Kremlin lies about its crimes and says one thing while doing the opposite. /

Not too dissimilar to Downing St then?

[Gromit]

As Foreign Secretary, Truss has been highly critical of Russia, the Kremlin and Putin. More so than Sunak.
The Russians see her aa an arch critic which is why they are discrediting her to their domestic viewers.

They don’t like her for what she has said. They are not bothered if she would be a good leader or not. There is no double bluff going on, they just don’t like her spiel.

[1ozzy]

Anyone interested in buying a shovel?
Seems to me that there's some serious bull *** to move.

[ichkeria]

While I agree Liz Truss might seem a harsher critic of the Kremlin than Sunak, being Foreign Secretary has thrust her into such a position.
And I think in fairness she has done well.
Who knows, Sunak may end up in her job. It’s hard to see him coming back as Chancellor (!)

[naomi24]

atheist 19.08. Following our conversation the other day ... you're at it again. The only one to have mentioned colour.

[FatticusInch]

Lol, it’s the Tory party, colour will always be a factor when it comes to promoting someone from cabinet minister to Party leader, even you’re not naïve enough to believe that, or as I suspect you’re actually being disingenuous.

Odd stance questioning Atheist too from someone who recently said they wouldn’t want a Muslim as PM(yes, I know Sunak is a Hindu), given that the majority of Muslims are not Caucasian, but you know that too.
Methinks the lady doth protest too much.

[naomi24]

You’re attempting to think far beyond your capabilities again, fatticusinch. Atheist will know what I’m taking about. You don’t.