The Queen

[gulliver1]

The Queen across her 70 years of reign dealt with 15 Prime Ministers and out of those 15 , the one she loathed the most was (have a guess)!.
...Yes you are right.... It was Boris Johnson.

[THECORBYLOON]

ZACS, from the link,

'A source close to the Palace said: “At least [the Queen] will be spared having to give Boris a knighthood. ***I think she loathes Boris***:because of his behaviour. He went around referring to her as ‘Her Maj’ and he never gave her any useful advice. You would have expected a prime minister to help sort out the mess with Prince Andrew, but Boris couldn’t help because he was mired in scandal of his own.”' [emphasis added]

[jno]

you're quibbling about the tense, ZM? That's unworthy of you. The claim was made before the queen's death, in the present tense. After her death it was obviously reported in the past tense, because a headline saying "Queen loathes Boris" would be self-evidently false.

You can of course disbelieve the unnamed source, though it would be remarkable for the Sunday Times, with a long history of careful reporting (even under the anti-monarchist Murdoch) to simply make up such a quote.

But to claim that the OP and Answerbank itself are peddling untruths can only imply that you know better, rather than that you don't know either way.

[gulliver1]

Zacs @ 16.48 What does "a slice close to the plalace"
mean .

[FatticusInch]

Methinks the ZacsMeister doth protest too much at the sullying of Boris’s outstanding character, honesty, professionalism and integrity.
He does appear
dreadfully concerned for a non-Tory voter.
One can only wonder why….?

[royfromaus]

Oh dear

https://www.aol.co.uk/news/queen-revealed-her-least-favourite-142922678.html

[FatticusInch]

Maybe Zacs will pour scorn on the link(as he did the others) but also even take issue with the word loathe in it?
As I’ve said previously, she supposedly never forgave Blair for ditching Britannia…..I can’t see that she’d have been any more benevolent to Boris either for his ‘shortcomings’.

[jno]

the story suggests that she disliked Blair because he supposedly coined the phrase "the people's princess" for Diana and advised her to address the nation as a grandmother (both were in fact Alastair Campbell's ideas) - though as the film The Queen suggests, both helped the monarchy recover from a lot of media-driven hostility.

These incidents seem to predate her encounters with Boris, however, so the anecdote's out of date.

[Zacs-Master]

Exactly. This is the trouble with a forum such as this.

[Zacs-Master]

Still spurious and unfounded claims to sources who say she loathed Boris. Any actual concrete facts or are we doing the usual AB dance?

[jno]

what sort of concrete fact would satisfy you? A signed affidavit from her late majesty? A reputable writer for a reputable newspaper has filed a report - very properly not naming his source. Have you any specific reason for thinking it untrue?

Note for instance the story that forms part of it, about the queen disliking Thatcher. That too was an anonymously sourced account at the time. Now it can be told (because he's dead) that it was from the queen's press secretary.

This is standard journalistic procedure. The reporter has to trust his source, whom he is honour bound not to name, and we're invited to trust the reporter. If you don't, that's fine, but do you have a reason?

[Peter Pedant]

you're quibbling about the tense,

erm no - she loathed Boris,
she cant loathe him now because she is dead

[Peter Pedant]

// the story suggests that she disliked Blair//
she loathed Bliar not because he lied
but because he got HM out of the poo-poo over Diana
when HM erm stumbled

and as we all well know- - no favour goes unpunished

[Zacs-Master]

There is no tense. The word loathed or loath is not featured in any article.

[Zacs-Master]

The OP is about Boris Johnson, not Blair!

[THECORBYLOON]

ZACS, the quote from the Sunday Times article is,

'A source close to the Palace said: “At least she will be spared having to give Boris a knighthood. I think she loathes Boris.'

Did you read the archived link to the article I posted? It is clearly from the Sunday Times and includes the word, "loathes".

[jno]

the issue of Blair was raised by someone else - not gulliver, not me - but is the same claim made in the article TCL linked to.

[FatticusInch]

Aren’t we lucky that so many Tory ministers and parliamentary party didn’t stay as loyal to Johnson as Zacs does?

[Zacs-Master]

As I’ve said before, if People want to believe ‘a source’ then feel free but it’s the oldest journalistic trick in the book.

[gulliver1]

Royfromaus @ 18.31 "Oh dear"......
Writing in the Sunday Times,the papers chief political commentator ,Tim Shipman, quoted sources suggesting the Former Tory leader Boris Johnson had overtaken ,Tony Blair as The Monarchs
..... "least favourite" Prime Minister.....Oh dear!

[davebro]

gully - may I refer you to my comment at 20.19 yesterday?