Society & Culture1 min ago
A Good Thing? Or Not
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There’s already talk of increased taxes across the board which I’d assume will be at local level having cuts made to them
Your thoughts?
There’s already talk of increased taxes across the board which I’d assume will be at local level having cuts made to them
Your thoughts?
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It is an invasion, only some deluded liberal elite would claim otherwise.
And yes taxes are being used to pay for these illegals, the Government dont have any money, it is ours they spend.
As for the block booking, look no further than the Home Office blob. I wonder how many they block booked near them?
And yes taxes are being used to pay for these illegals, the Government dont have any money, it is ours they spend.
As for the block booking, look no further than the Home Office blob. I wonder how many they block booked near them?
Don’t want to start another thread on them ….
Taken from Marston and put where?
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Taken from Marston and put where?
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// the owners of those hotels want to be paid (current cost - just of the hotels - is £7m per week or £2bn per year). //
Is the private sector getting too much of the tax payers money?
After austerity and lockdown is it not about time the hospitality sector got a bit of a break? After all they did bear the brunt of it.
// And yes taxes are being used to pay for these illegals, //
A mere fraction of the Covid bill estimated at £ 1/3 Trillion+ Comparisons with the Gordon Brown 'boom and bust' episode, an even tinier fraction. Figures bandied around for that little mistake were in the region of an eye watering £3 Trillion - Yes, that's a 3, with 12 noughts after it... £ 3 000 000 000 000 - Impressive isn't it!
Is the private sector getting too much of the tax payers money?
After austerity and lockdown is it not about time the hospitality sector got a bit of a break? After all they did bear the brunt of it.
// And yes taxes are being used to pay for these illegals, //
A mere fraction of the Covid bill estimated at £ 1/3 Trillion+ Comparisons with the Gordon Brown 'boom and bust' episode, an even tinier fraction. Figures bandied around for that little mistake were in the region of an eye watering £3 Trillion - Yes, that's a 3, with 12 noughts after it... £ 3 000 000 000 000 - Impressive isn't it!
//You have to feel sorry for them ... don't you? No 'invasion' here!//
The problem is when commentators resort to this kind of language, there follows the inevitable frenzy amongst the public.
The issues then become overstated, the rhetoric is amplified out of all proportion and hyperboles (as if they needed to be) become wildly exaggerated.
To such an extent, that those (in this case Albanians refugees), whom are in genuine need of our help, having met the criteria and subsequently awarded asylum, now find themselves in a country, where at best, they feel alienated and ostracised. At worse...
// Zebu, ridiculous argument. Covid has no bearing on this. //
The amount of taxpayers money being spent has been a common theme throughout this thread and certainly the concern of many OPs. The mention of money spent on Covid, was to highlight that the cost of supporting those Albanians in hotels, is a flawed argument. To reiterate, it's a fraction of the cost!
Vent your spleen at the authorities not those who seek a better life. The RNLI might be a good place to start.
The problem is when commentators resort to this kind of language, there follows the inevitable frenzy amongst the public.
The issues then become overstated, the rhetoric is amplified out of all proportion and hyperboles (as if they needed to be) become wildly exaggerated.
To such an extent, that those (in this case Albanians refugees), whom are in genuine need of our help, having met the criteria and subsequently awarded asylum, now find themselves in a country, where at best, they feel alienated and ostracised. At worse...
// Zebu, ridiculous argument. Covid has no bearing on this. //
The amount of taxpayers money being spent has been a common theme throughout this thread and certainly the concern of many OPs. The mention of money spent on Covid, was to highlight that the cost of supporting those Albanians in hotels, is a flawed argument. To reiterate, it's a fraction of the cost!
Vent your spleen at the authorities not those who seek a better life. The RNLI might be a good place to start.
NJ, your figures are at odds with those in the Independent from a few day ago.
"Analysis from the Oxford Migration Observatory reveals that 86 per cent of Albanians who received positive decisions on asylum applications in the year ending June 2022 were women, whose leave to remain was granted on the basis that they were likely to have been trafficked and in genuine need of protection.
The analysis also shows that more than half (55 per cent) of adult Albanian asylum applicants were successful at the initial decision stage.
Acceptance rates for Albanian asylum claims to the year ending June 2022 were higher in both Ireland and Italy, with initial decision grant rates of 88 per cent and 59 per cent respectively, compared to 55 per cent in the UK"
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"Analysis from the Oxford Migration Observatory reveals that 86 per cent of Albanians who received positive decisions on asylum applications in the year ending June 2022 were women, whose leave to remain was granted on the basis that they were likely to have been trafficked and in genuine need of protection.
The analysis also shows that more than half (55 per cent) of adult Albanian asylum applicants were successful at the initial decision stage.
Acceptance rates for Albanian asylum claims to the year ending June 2022 were higher in both Ireland and Italy, with initial decision grant rates of 88 per cent and 59 per cent respectively, compared to 55 per cent in the UK"
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//NJ, your figures are at odds with those in the Independent from a few day ago.//
I’ve been looking at these number during this afternoon, Corby, and frankly there is no real consensus between any of the sources I’ve looked at.
Essentially my view is this: Albania is a safe country with a stable government. If people there need “protection” from criminal gangs it is incumbent on the Albanian authorities to provide it. They are no more deserving of “asylum” than are the abused girls and young women in Bradford.
But I will go further than that. It is common ground that more than 10,000 young Albanian men have arrived here in the recent months. Many of those interviewed admit that they have come here to earn five to ten times the sums they can in Albania and much of their income is sent to Albania (providing no benefit to the UK whatsoever). This country is unable to sort the wheat (the few possibly warranting asylum) from this chaff. So it should simply say that it is no longer dealing with any asylum claim from anybody from anywhere. Anybody arriving in a rubber boat from France will be treated as an illegal migrant (as the 1951 Convention permits – regardless of the UN’s claims to the contrary) and that we will not provide support for any of them.
The prime responsibility of the government of this country is to attend to the welfare and wellbeing of the people here. This ongoing influx cannot be dealt with and there is no reason why the wellbeing of the people already here should be jeopardised to accommodate it – any more than it already is. Our responsibility towards illegal migrants needs to be declared at an end.
I’ve been looking at these number during this afternoon, Corby, and frankly there is no real consensus between any of the sources I’ve looked at.
Essentially my view is this: Albania is a safe country with a stable government. If people there need “protection” from criminal gangs it is incumbent on the Albanian authorities to provide it. They are no more deserving of “asylum” than are the abused girls and young women in Bradford.
But I will go further than that. It is common ground that more than 10,000 young Albanian men have arrived here in the recent months. Many of those interviewed admit that they have come here to earn five to ten times the sums they can in Albania and much of their income is sent to Albania (providing no benefit to the UK whatsoever). This country is unable to sort the wheat (the few possibly warranting asylum) from this chaff. So it should simply say that it is no longer dealing with any asylum claim from anybody from anywhere. Anybody arriving in a rubber boat from France will be treated as an illegal migrant (as the 1951 Convention permits – regardless of the UN’s claims to the contrary) and that we will not provide support for any of them.
The prime responsibility of the government of this country is to attend to the welfare and wellbeing of the people here. This ongoing influx cannot be dealt with and there is no reason why the wellbeing of the people already here should be jeopardised to accommodate it – any more than it already is. Our responsibility towards illegal migrants needs to be declared at an end.
This will cheer you up on a cold Friday night:
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Sleep well. At least you can be sure our Albanian friends will, having fled for their lives from Calais.
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Sleep well. At least you can be sure our Albanian friends will, having fled for their lives from Calais.
I just tried booking a room:
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November and December are blocked out. But you can book from January 1st. However, if you do, I'd go for a refundable rate as you'll probably get blown out before you go. And don't book your wedding there.
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November and December are blocked out. But you can book from January 1st. However, if you do, I'd go for a refundable rate as you'll probably get blown out before you go. And don't book your wedding there.
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