Indyref2 The Right Answer.........

[ToraToraTora]

Supreme court judges rule unanimously that the holding of a referendum is a reserved matter and thus permission is needed from the UK government.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-63701835

[ynnafymmi]

Here i am,folks,here i am.Just done a 10 hour shift(so my taxes can pay for all the SNP workshyites).No pretendy referendum till about 2035,good.I bet TCL and Steg and the rest of the nationalist separatists are having a bad day.Every cloud,eh,TCL.

[ynnafymmi]

I would say to all the SNP mugs on here-"get it ******* right up ya".But i wont.

[Khandro]

I learnt today that she started on this mission when she was 16 years old, I wonder what at that age made her hate Britain so much, & why during all that time, considering so many events that have taken place, she has never for once wavered.
Ideology, bloody-mindedness ?

[ynnafymmi]

Considering that the SNP was founded by Hitlerites(Arthur Donaldson)in the thirties,and Sturgeon was the leader of the Young Scottish Nationalists at one time makes me wonder if the SNP if Mrs Murrell isnt less left wing nationalist,more right wing nationalist.Anyway her time is up.Bye,bye,Nikky.

[ynnafymmi]

@12.45 & @12.46.The brexit referendum vote up here in Scotland was-SNP voters who voted for Brexit(29%),Scottish Tory voters who voted for Brexit(27%),Scottish Labour voters who voted for Brexit(19%).Up here in Scotland the main Brexiteer party was the SNP.Figures from the Guardian newspaper,by the way.

[THECORBYLOON]

When was Nicola Sturgeon leader of the Young Scottish Nationalists?

[ynnafymmi]

Hows it going,TCL.Ye OK old-boy.Cant give any dates but there are photos on the internet showing her at the front of the Young Scottish Nationalists rallies.Look it up yersel.Every cloud,eh?

[ynnafymmi]

By the way just loving your discomfiture,as i [email protected].

[THECORBYLOON]

I seen the photo of her in front of a YSN banner and she was a member of its executive but that doesn't mean she was its leader, does it?

[ynnafymmi]

...and?....any nationalist is a bad nationalist....

[naomi24]

Roy at 19.46. Excellent observation. Presumably Nicola had a fast track plan organised but judging by the lukewarm reception she received from the EU in 2016 I can only think it was in her mind alone.

[ynnafymmi]

Its not only that Naomi,it is the fact that more SNP voters voted for Brexit than Scottish Tory voters or Scottish Labour voters.I know you are a Brexiteer,i am a Remainer.But the fact that the SNP voters endorsed Brexit really sticks in my craw.

[New Judge]

//Which encourage undecided Scots that independence might not be such a bad thing, but perhaps that is your intention//

I really don’t care that much one way or another. The UK Government wastes enough money and a few quid extra given to the Scots is neither here nor there in the overall scheme of things. I don’t see that Scotland adds anything particularly to the strength of the UK and with about 8% of the population there is undue attention given to such a small minority. They were forced to form a Union with England because they were skint and if they leave (owing to the RUK 8% of the £2trillion debt) they will be equally so.

// NJ, why do you think the Supreme Court should not have accepted the Lord Advocate's referral?//

Because Constitutional matters (of which there can be no doubt that the potential break up of the UK is one) are clearly reserved for Westminster.

//"They would have left the EU in 2014 if they had won the independence vote."

Where did you get that claim from?//

Well, let’s ask this question then, Corby: If Scotland had voted to become an independent country in 2014, do you believe they would be a member of the EU by now? I certainly don’t. The UK was the EU member at that time and if they left the UK they would have left the EU. Further, I could not see the EU immediately accepting them as a member because they simply did not (and still do not) meet the entry criteria. Yes, the EU may have “fudged” their entry (as it did that of Greece to the euro) but I doubt it.

[ynnafymmi]

Your erudition is quite great,NJ,but why do i get the impression that you hate Scotland just as much as i love Scotland?Maybe its just me....

[THECORBYLOON]

 ynnafymmi "...and?....any nationalist is a bad nationalist...."

You are very hot on folk being accurate and have accused at least one other member of lying.

I am merely attempting to establish whether Nicola Sturgeon was, in fact, ever leader of the YSN as you claimed but you appear unable to provide confirmation.

[ynnafymmi]

I am relishing your discomfiture,TCL.Every cloud,eh.As for your lying comment,JNO stated"for some time after Mandela was freed,there was no shortage of ABers denouncing him as a murderer".Mandela was released in 1990.Answerbank wasnt founded till 2000.So how the hell did ABers denounce the release of Mandela when AB wasnt founded till 2000?Did some ABers have a time machine.Every cloud,eh?

[THECORBYLOON]

Some folk, not me of course, would say you were lying about Nicola Sturgeon being leader of the YSN at one stage when you may have simply misread something.

I'll leave it at that.

[ynnafymmi]

Myfanwy laughs uncontrollably at TCLs discomfiture.See you outside the polling station in 2035,loon.

[ToraToraTora]

untitled: "i understand that it would be illegal but they couldn't just ignore it surely" - well it would likely be boycotted by the no camp and thus would become a farce akin to a Mugabe 98% win!

[New Judge]

//...but why do i get the impression that you hate Scotland just as much as i love Scotland?//

I've no idea because I don't. I've no particular feelings one way or another. I've been there quite a few times and have some friends who run a Shortbread business near Loch Lomond. Scotland is a nice enough place and like other parts of the UK has its good parts and bad parts, some nice people and some not-so-nice people.

What is getting on my nerves is the constant whining of some (not all) Scots, perpetually moaning about how they have suffered three hundred years of oppression by the English and how their interests are not considered by Westminster. They have a devolved administration with powers that far exceed that of the London Assembly (the population of which is far greater) and receive far more in public spending per head than most parts of England do. Scotland has an independence referendum eight years ago and gave its answer. The notion that the EU referendum changed all that is specious. Far more and a similar percentage of people in London voted to Remain and I have not heard any calls for London's independence from the UK recently.