Palace Racism

[fender62]

Ngozi Fulani was asked where she was originally from mmm, whats the problem there
it's not what or was considered a british christian name, i assume the palace get people from around the globe visiting, so why the big hoo haa.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11486513/Prince-William-condemns-unacceptable-comments-godmother-Lady-Susan-Hussey.html

[Ellipsis]

Naomi, I take it you're saying I'm defending Ngozi Fulani. I'm neither defending nor attacking her, nor the Palace.

In case it's not obvious, I'm challenging you making stuff up to fit your preferred narrative, because you don't like what really happened according to statements by all parties involved.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // Principle is clearly at a premium with both of you. //

It is, and I have no problem with that.

My issue is, you are absolutely determined that, just because there is no evidence to to the contrary in the public domain, that Lady Hussey must be an angel in human form - and I am simply putting forward the suggestion that absence of evidence in the public domain does not automatically mean that absence of wrongdoing has to be the only scenario.

Lady Hussey may well have lived a life of blameless service, I am perfectly willing to accept that she probably has.

But I am not willing to simply ignore the possibility that she has not, in order to ensure that she can remain blameless in a situation where she herself has admitted culpability.

If you can't acknowledge that as a simple piece of reality, then there is little point in this discussion continuing.

[douglas9401]

I didn't think my opinion of Mr Hughes could go any lower, then he conjures up Savile to prop up his drivel.

Get to your bed man.

[andy-hughes]

douglas - //
I didn't think my opinion of Mr Hughes could go any lower, then he conjures up Savile to prop up his drivel. //

An extreme example to make a point is a common debating tool, I use it myself frequently, and have done so here.

If you can't understand that, that's fine with me.

[naomi24]

Corby, do you have a reason for questioning the queen’s judgement over 60 years?

[andy-hughes]

douglas - // Get to your bed man. //

No thanks - I am involved in a discussion, and getting under your skin is an irrelevant sideshow which I am happy to ignore.

[naomi24]

Ellipsis, I’ve made nothing up. The accuser here has made false accusations of a similar nature in the past. That is a matter of record.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // Corby, do you have a reason for questioning the queen’s judgement over 60 years? //

I would not question the Queen's judgement in many things.

But keeping unpleasantness in-house is something in which the palace machinery excels - and that probably has included keeping such unpleasantness from her majesty on numerous occasions.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // The accuser here has made false accusations of a similar nature in the past. That is a matter of record. //

It is - but it only became an issue on this thread because someone went to the trouble of seeking it out and adding it in, to reduce Ms Fulani's credibility in the eyes of those who refuse to accept that, although she may herself have behaved badly, that does not excuse someone who should know better, doing the same.

[naomi24]

What occasions?

[Ellipsis]

You're making nothing up, Naomi. Then you agree with the Palace's statement stressing that ‘unacceptable and deeply regrettable comments’ had been made.

[Barsel]

I said a lot earlier about what I think happened and I'll say it again.
Lady Hussey asked what she believed was a straightforward question.
Ms Fulani gave an answer that Lady Hussey wasn't expecting, so she asked again, and again, it wasn't the answer she was expecting. Instead of just letting it go, I believe lady Hussey got a bit flustered and carried on with the same question. A mistake on her part.
I'm sure she has asked this question many times when accompanying the Queen at these sorts of events and previously there hasn't been a problem.
I must say though that to compare her with Jimmy Saville is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of.

[naomi24]

That’s never been disputed and it has been explained.

[naomi24]

^that to ellipsis.

[andy-hughes]

Barsel - // I said a lot earlier about what I think happened and I'll say it again.
Lady Hussey asked what she believed was a straightforward question.
Ms Fulani gave an answer that Lady Hussey wasn't expecting, so she asked again, and again, it wasn't the answer she was expecting. Instead of just letting it go, I believe lady Hussey got a bit flustered and carried on with the same question. A mistake on her part. //

If you refer to the transcript of what was said, evidence suggests that Lady Hussey heard and understood the response Ms Fulani, gave, but on the basis of Ms Fulani;s name, skin colour, and clothing, chose not to believe her.

Her response was to say "Yes, but where are you really from?"

Now I'm not sure how you would interpret that, but I, and clearly Ms Fulani, took it to mean that Lady Hussey did n;t believe that she was British, and was asking where she was 'really from', because clearly that is not this country.

I would be offended by that, so was Ms Fulani.

And suggesting that Lady Hussey would be 'flustered' in this situation, rather flies in the face of repeated exhortations to her 'sixty years of blameless service'.

[naomi24]

21.44 to AH.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - Which part of -

Lady Hussey admitted she was wrong and aplogised.

The palace admitted she was wrong and investigated what was said as a 'serious matter'.

Prince William referred to 'racism' in his statement.

Do you appear not to understand?

[naomi24]

AH, I understood every word. You, however, must try harder.

[Ellipsis]

Naomi, if it's not disputed that you agree with the Palace's statement stressing that ‘unacceptable and deeply regrettable comments’ had been made and the individual concerned expressed her profound apologies for the hurt caused and stepped aside, then we're done. :)

[THECORBYLOON]

NAOMI, I have no idea what the late Queen's judgement was regarding any of her staff, let alone Lady Hussey and neither do you yet you've claimed her performance was exemplary.