So Do We.

[nicebloke1]

Just seen on news that some countries are restricting travel on China. So, should Sunak act now?

[douglas9401]

Oh yes.

[Canary42]

Yes, we don't want to repeat Boris's Blunders

[sunny-dave]

Yep - nice big wall should do the job

[gness]

Yes and so should Varadkar after what happened here last time.

[Buenchico]

Given that there have been 20.4 million cases of Covid reported in England, out of a population of 56.0 million, and that the majority of more recent cases almost certainly won't have been reported either, that means that well over a third of the population of the country (and quite possibly well over a half of people in England) have already had Covid.

So, unless there's evidence of a new variant of concern being present in China, it's clearly a ridiculous idea to try to keep Covid out of the country through closing our borders to Chinese citizens when Covid is already so widespread here anyway.

[nicebloke1]

Understand Buen, but China are not going to tell us if theres a new strain, are they. Plus if they come here and fall ill, theres little room left for us in hospital.

[sunny-dave]

Given China's impeccable record of openness and clarity about Covid ...

... I think a year of isolation for the whole country should just about do it.

[gness]

I agree with Nicebloke and Dave. That will surprise Dave.

[royfromaus]

Well, we can't afford another stupid sh!tshow like the last one.


lockdowns and furlough...idiotic over reactions.

[andy-hughes]

Restricting travel anywhere without better reason that the ones being bandied about now is a bad idea.

The world needs to return to normal as quickly as possible, and trying to pretend that restrictions to any country will prevent anything connected to Covid is naive, and smacks far more or political stuntery than anything connected to medical science.

[ichkeria]

No.
These restrictions are utterly pointless.
They had an Italian doctor on earlier also making this point.

[nicebloke1]

One simple action is required. Stop them coming in, until at least China start being more up front. But i doubt they will want to do that.

[royfromaus]

Given China's impeccable record of openness and clarity about Covid ...
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That's hilarious.
Does anyone want to see some videos on the openness and clarity about COVID from virtually every leader in the western world?

[nicebloke1]

Italy have already ban them.

[ichkeria]

" Avatar Image Canary42
Yes, we don't want to repeat Boris's Blunders "

Say what you like about Boris Johnson, and I often do, but his handling of this is starting to look masterful compared to the hames being made of things by the Chinese.

[ToraToraTora]

"travel on China" on? how does that work?

[ToraToraTora]

gawd elp us Covid is harmless now, like all viruses it evolves to spread, you can't spread if you kill the host, natural selection derr!

[douglas9401]

Full disclosure before the noisy barging hordes are allowed on our city streets and let loose on our roads.

It's not going to happen of course so we'll just have to be 'racist and xenophobic' for a few days before caving in.

[New Judge]

Around 120,000 Chinese nationals were granted student visas in 2021. The number is likely to be similar if not higher this year. Similar numbers of “Family” visas were issued in each of those two years. This means around half a million Chinese nationals have entered the UK in the last two years for those two reasons alone. What is the point of placing restrictions on them now?

The SARS-Cov-2 virus (Covid) is now endemic in the UK and all of us will be exposed to it multiple times in our lives. There is no point in trying to prevent its spread and in any case, the overwhelming majority of the population have protection from serious symptoms though a combination of vaccination and natural immunity from previous exposure. For those people, infection will be no more than an inconvenience.

The UK Health Security Agency announced last week that it will stop publishing modelling data on coronavirus in early January. The chief data scientist, Dr Nick Watkins, said the publication of this specific data is “no longer necessary” as the country is living with Covid thanks to vaccines and therapeutics. This is a clear indication that the pandemic is now over and the disease is now endemic (along with a multitude of other respiratory diseases). There must be no moves towards imposing restrictions on people already here or on visitors. The full impact of the restrictions imposed in 2020-21 are only just being properly realised and the folly of ditching the country’s pandemic plan is finally being exposed. This had been in place for more than a decade, was approved by the WHO and did not involve lockdowns, facemasks or travel restrictions,

There is no way the country should expect or allow any of those assaults on civil liberties to be summarily imposed as they were before.

[goodgoalie]

I'd be more than happy to see the 'civil liberties' of anyone trying to get here from China being curtailed. I'm sure there's a lot more happening in China than we are being told.