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What Could Possibly Be The Benefit Of Dissolving The British Royal Family?
why is there so much anti-royal family stories or negative press in the media at the moment ?
Is it the fourth estate trying to take residence in the royal estates ?
Is it the fourth estate trying to take residence in the royal estates ?
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Being a staunch Republican I would welcome the end of they. It's outdated, expensive and leads to much 'us and them'.
However I dont think this is the way it should be done, it's not down to two people who live in an ex colony to decide that, the people of Britain and its territories need to decide democratically.
However I dont think this is the way it should be done, it's not down to two people who live in an ex colony to decide that, the people of Britain and its territories need to decide democratically.
//One Monarch has died, and we are transitioning to a new one.//
We are not "transitioning" to a new Monarch. Charles became King at 3:10pm (British Summer Time) on 8th September last year - the moment The Queen died. He assumed full powers and responsibilities from that instant. The Monarchy is enduring and there is no transition period from one Monarch to the next. You seem to be confusing the Monarchy with the individuals who each temporarily hold the post of Monarch.
If a debate is to be held as to whether the UK is to continue as a Constitutional Monarchy, the period around the death of a Monarch is not the time to hold it. Furthermore, I think you may be very surprised if a referendum was to be held on whether the populace wanted a Monarchy or not. For one thing, the choice of a suitable alternative would have to be made clear and, as far as I am aware, nobody has put forward an alternative that the electorate might prefer.
We are not "transitioning" to a new Monarch. Charles became King at 3:10pm (British Summer Time) on 8th September last year - the moment The Queen died. He assumed full powers and responsibilities from that instant. The Monarchy is enduring and there is no transition period from one Monarch to the next. You seem to be confusing the Monarchy with the individuals who each temporarily hold the post of Monarch.
If a debate is to be held as to whether the UK is to continue as a Constitutional Monarchy, the period around the death of a Monarch is not the time to hold it. Furthermore, I think you may be very surprised if a referendum was to be held on whether the populace wanted a Monarchy or not. For one thing, the choice of a suitable alternative would have to be made clear and, as far as I am aware, nobody has put forward an alternative that the electorate might prefer.
I suspect Gromit is confusing the fact King Charles III has not actually been crowned with the fact he automatically became King on the death of his mother.
I agree that if a referendum was held tomorrow the Monarchy would remain, however that is still relying on QEII, what King Charles does in the next year or so could be crucial. In the past he has had a habit of interfering, if he starts doing that then the public reaction may change.
As for ideas to be put forward, well until it looks likely a vote may go away from the Monarchy what is the point? However before anyone starts, like the NHS argument, it doesnt have to be like the USA, there are plenty of other countries doing very well without a monarch.
I agree that if a referendum was held tomorrow the Monarchy would remain, however that is still relying on QEII, what King Charles does in the next year or so could be crucial. In the past he has had a habit of interfering, if he starts doing that then the public reaction may change.
As for ideas to be put forward, well until it looks likely a vote may go away from the Monarchy what is the point? However before anyone starts, like the NHS argument, it doesnt have to be like the USA, there are plenty of other countries doing very well without a monarch.
I like having a monarchy for all it's faults, look around the world over recent years, they haven't had much quality in the way of presidents....or Glorious little leaders.... Japan is in no hurry to get rid of their Emperor, and most of the mainland European monarchies have slimmed down and still carry on. It's a reminder we have a history, and continuity over and above the in fighting of politicians discounting Harry the plonker of course.
Weren't there riots when George the whatever married Caroline of Brunswick.
yes
About the time of Paul I ( of russia silly) who was in Paree within 5 years.
no dammit_ coronation 1821
Let me eeen ! I am the Queen of England!
She jhammered at the doors and she was not let in
other points
first coronation where you could buy the seat you sat in in the Abbey
whilst er travelling she HAD born a child from Italian, Beegami or someone. and George knew and didnt hate the child
The Kings divorce ( 1821 ) became a political issue according to Princesse de Lieven who was writing about this to Metternich. If it was defeated then the govt wd fall - ( as described in Trollope) and that was worth opposing the divorce. Not because it was fair or he needed it but because by opposing
And by opposing end them: to die, to sleep (*)
by opposing, you would gain power.
(bidda Shakey there to whop up the standard)
yes
About the time of Paul I ( of russia silly) who was in Paree within 5 years.
no dammit_ coronation 1821
Let me eeen ! I am the Queen of England!
She jhammered at the doors and she was not let in
other points
first coronation where you could buy the seat you sat in in the Abbey
whilst er travelling she HAD born a child from Italian, Beegami or someone. and George knew and didnt hate the child
The Kings divorce ( 1821 ) became a political issue according to Princesse de Lieven who was writing about this to Metternich. If it was defeated then the govt wd fall - ( as described in Trollope) and that was worth opposing the divorce. Not because it was fair or he needed it but because by opposing
And by opposing end them: to die, to sleep (*)
by opposing, you would gain power.
(bidda Shakey there to whop up the standard)
I am not confusing anything. I know Charles is King.
I would be quite happy for him to be coronated and for him to carry on the traditions and pomp of being a figurehead.
Disagree NJ. The Queen successfully acted as Monarch. And now she is no longer with us, we should take this time to reassess the new King’s role, the extended family and the various properties.
Many Royals are pretty worthless and very costly. Some of the European Royals manage to exist on a fraction of the money and with a much smaller workforce. Now is the time to explore what other options are available, and whether we would be better adopting another version of Royalty.
I would be quite happy for him to be coronated and for him to carry on the traditions and pomp of being a figurehead.
Disagree NJ. The Queen successfully acted as Monarch. And now she is no longer with us, we should take this time to reassess the new King’s role, the extended family and the various properties.
Many Royals are pretty worthless and very costly. Some of the European Royals manage to exist on a fraction of the money and with a much smaller workforce. Now is the time to explore what other options are available, and whether we would be better adopting another version of Royalty.
From what Charles has said in the past, a slimmed down royal family is what we will have, Himself and Camilla, William and Kate and the children , The Princess Royal for as long as she wants to keep up her duties, Sophie and Edward picking up some of the slack left by Harry and Meaghans opt out. Other members of the firm would get expenses for any duties performed in behalf of the monarch. The sad thing is Harry and herself would have had more of the spotlight and been able to do more for their causes if they hadn't jumped ship.
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