Brexit A Colossal Mistake

[Hymie]

From my posting on this site Abers will be aware that Brexit is an absolute disaster for the UK, but Sir John Major’s assessment is even worse than that, stating that it is a colossal mistake.

Brexiteers must be wondering how our former Prime Minister who still has an interest in politics and world affairs (and an interest in the wellbeing of the UK as a whole) can have such a diametrically opposed view to them.

[ToraToraTora]

So you've dug up another EUSSRPhil propaganda video!

[Canary42]

PMSL

[gness]

Wise words indeed, Hymie. He’s 79 and spoke better and with more sense and thought for the future than the clowns we have to listen to now.

[Boto]

His opinions only, no more valid than anyone else’s.

[bobbinwales]

I agree with Major on this, I also agree'd with him on this in the referrendum. But what to do. Posting the same stuff and youtube clips to 20 middle age people on this website won't change anything. We're not going to rejoin in next 10 years anyway

[bobbinwales]

Funny tho how we interpret thing's ....'colossal mistake' doesn't sound to me ' a lot worse' than 'absolute disaster ' ??? IMHO.

[Peter Pedant]

Hi - me
ignore TTT - even when you 'translate' the words he writes, the translation bot comments - this is drivel in whatever language.

I actually disagree

Successive prime ministers pine to write : " I told you so!" and some do, to general criticism. Imagine Corbyn ( er leader of the oppo) saying I was right all along

otherwise KR and keep your *** up !

[Peter Pedant]

His opinions only, no more valid than anyone else’s.

so.... the second world war did NOT occur in the forties, is as valid an opinion as - - it did!
Yeah OK got it - - AB on a thundering thursday !

[gulliver1]

Agree with you Hymie. New facts published today,
show the true cost of Brexit ..£100 billion a year in lost economic output since leaving the EU.
.....Boris's Brexit got the UK Well a truly done.......

[gulliver1]

Boris promised huge trade deals with America and India after Brexit. What happened ? .
Boris did managed to sign a Trade deal with
New Zealand,to allow them to sell Lamb to the UK ."
How that will help boost the UK economy is anyones guess.

[ToraToraTora]

Hymie, the judge demolishes your threads all the time, has any knowledge penetrated?

[douglas9401]

Careful Tora, your fanboy sycophancy is showing.

[lankeela]

"From my posting on this site Abers will be aware that Brexit is an absolute disaster for the UK" - thank you Hymie how ever would we all manage without you making us aware because none of us are capable of making up our own minds from genuine news reports.

[Old_Geezer]

This nonsense yet again ? Oh dear.

[naomi24]

//Brexiteers must be wondering how our former Prime Minister who still has an interest in politics and world affairs (and an interest in the wellbeing of the UK as a whole) can have such a diametrically opposed view to them. //

That's really funny. :o)))

[Old_Geezer]

Not really. It's more sad.

[naomi24]

Hymie doesn't seem to have realised what he said.

[gulliver1]

11.08 "and an interest in the wellbeing of the UK as a whole". If you are talking about who I think you are talking about. His only interest in wellbeing is his own

[New Judge]

// Brexiteers must be wondering how our former Prime Minister who still has an interest in politics and world affairs (and an interest in the wellbeing of the UK as a whole) can have such a diametrically opposed view to them.//

No they're not wondering that at all.

The reason Mr Major has diametrically opposed views is that he is an ardent Europhile. In 1992 (which, uncoincidentally, is the date I decided I would vote to leave the EU if ever given the chance) he paved the way for the Brexit referendum by signing the Maastricht Treaty on behalf of the UK. This Treaty established the European Union and set it onto the path towards a federal state, which it still ruthlessly pursues today.

There was widespread opposition to the Treaty among both the Conservative and Labour parties (though for different reasons) and Major called a vote of confidence in his administration. This was so that Tory MPs (some of whom planned to vote against the European Communities Amendment Act 1993 which was to allow ratification of the Treaty) could be whipped into line. The confidence vote was won and the Treaty subsequently ratified.

This was a huge change to the UK's Constitutional position and it should have been put to a referendum rather than a whipped vote in the Commons (and if it had it was very likely to have succeeded). But it wasn't and then began the process of the EU's "ever closer union" to which most people who voted to leave in 2016 objected.

I have to thank Mr Major for signing the Maastricht Treaty. That one action alone probably did more than anything else to set the path towards the UK's recent departure from the EU. Had he called a referendum in 1992 and, as I suspect it would, the result was to remain, it would have been far more difficult to make a case for leaving. It's just a pity that it took a quarter of a century.

So before you pose "puzzles" which you seemingly know little about, you need to study what happened and why. There is no puzzle at all why Mr Major now describes Brexit as a mistake. He invested his entire political future in pushing Maastricht through Parliament and thought he'd cracked it. Alas he only postponed the inevitable and revenge, as they say, is a dish best served cold.

[Peter Pedant]

Hymie, the judge demolishes your threads all the time, has any knowledge penetrated?

has any knowledge penetrated? - the judge? doesnt look like it....
haw haw haw