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Anti-Semitic Labour party, I thought this had stopped.
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Racism is black and white
Tomiwa Owolade claims that Irish, Jewish and Traveller people all suffer from “racism” (“Racism in Britain is not a black and white issue. It’s far more complicated”, Comment). They undoubtedly experience prejudice. This is similar to racism and the two words are often used as if they are interchangeable.
It is true that many types of white people with points of difference, such as redheads, can experience this prejudice. But they are not all their lives subject to racism. In pre-civil rights America, Irish people, Jewish people and Travellers were not required to sit at the back of the bus. In apartheid South Africa, these groups were allowed to vote. And at the height of slavery, there were no white-seeming people manacled on the slave ships.
Diane Abbott
House of Commons, London SW1
Racism is black and white
Tomiwa Owolade claims that Irish, Jewish and Traveller people all suffer from “racism” (“Racism in Britain is not a black and white issue. It’s far more complicated”, Comment). They undoubtedly experience prejudice. This is similar to racism and the two words are often used as if they are interchangeable.
It is true that many types of white people with points of difference, such as redheads, can experience this prejudice. But they are not all their lives subject to racism. In pre-civil rights America, Irish people, Jewish people and Travellers were not required to sit at the back of the bus. In apartheid South Africa, these groups were allowed to vote. And at the height of slavery, there were no white-seeming people manacled on the slave ships.
Diane Abbott
House of Commons, London SW1
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As I said earlier, she uses three examples that demonstrate that Jews, Irish and Travellers did not suffer some of the symptoms of racism that black people did, and so by extension, those three groups cannot currently suffer racism.
Mr Owolade is talking about the present. Ms Abbot cites three examples of practices that ended in the mid 1960s, in 1994, and the mid 19th Century respectively. She suggests that the prejudice (which is actually religious intolerance and hatred) which Jews experience regularly, and which was discussed in Parliament on a day when she was seemingly otherwise engaged, is similar to the prejudice that some groups such as redheads are sometimes face. You couldn't make it up.
It seems from her ramblings that from a black perspective only black people can be on the receiving end of hatred. And it ain't necessarily so.
Mr Owolade is talking about the present. Ms Abbot cites three examples of practices that ended in the mid 1960s, in 1994, and the mid 19th Century respectively. She suggests that the prejudice (which is actually religious intolerance and hatred) which Jews experience regularly, and which was discussed in Parliament on a day when she was seemingly otherwise engaged, is similar to the prejudice that some groups such as redheads are sometimes face. You couldn't make it up.
It seems from her ramblings that from a black perspective only black people can be on the receiving end of hatred. And it ain't necessarily so.
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\\And at the height of slavery, there were no white-seeming people manacled on the slave ships.//
Has she never heard of the barbary pirates.
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\\And at the height of slavery, there were no white-seeming people manacled on the slave ships.//
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// They won't clarify a single point or cite an example of her so-called anti-semitism.//
Well, she suggests that only black people can experience racism. Whilst I accept that religious belief is not "race", it is a protected characteristic which enjoys just the same protections as race. Those on the receiving end of hatred because of their religion are not any less discriminated against than those suffering because of their race. She goes on to suggest the hatred that Jews experience is merely "prejudice" similar in principle to the prejudice that redheads experience.
Her constituency has a sizeable Jewish contingent. Hasidic Jews in particular are subject to hatred and abuse because of their distinctive appearance and those in Stamford Hill have been compelled to form protective groups to counter the violence their members suffer. To equate this with being called "carrot head" because of the colour of one's hair shows a considerable lack of understanding of the problems a significant community within her constituency faces. If it was a community of distinctive black people being treated similarly I think her views may be somewhat different.
Well, she suggests that only black people can experience racism. Whilst I accept that religious belief is not "race", it is a protected characteristic which enjoys just the same protections as race. Those on the receiving end of hatred because of their religion are not any less discriminated against than those suffering because of their race. She goes on to suggest the hatred that Jews experience is merely "prejudice" similar in principle to the prejudice that redheads experience.
Her constituency has a sizeable Jewish contingent. Hasidic Jews in particular are subject to hatred and abuse because of their distinctive appearance and those in Stamford Hill have been compelled to form protective groups to counter the violence their members suffer. To equate this with being called "carrot head" because of the colour of one's hair shows a considerable lack of understanding of the problems a significant community within her constituency faces. If it was a community of distinctive black people being treated similarly I think her views may be somewhat different.
> think this letter has been blown out of proportion...
You have to be joking - comparing the prejudice of Jews over the centuries to redheads!
Apparently she has withdrawn her remarks and apologised "for any anguish caused". Good. You still have to ask what prompted her to say such an idiotic outburst in the first place. She is well past her sell by date.
You have to be joking - comparing the prejudice of Jews over the centuries to redheads!
Apparently she has withdrawn her remarks and apologised "for any anguish caused". Good. You still have to ask what prompted her to say such an idiotic outburst in the first place. She is well past her sell by date.
She's not being anti-semitic and I not sure anyone's saying she is.
She's claiming that only people with different skin color can experience racism, whereas other groups merely experience prejudice - presumably something she considers to be not as bad.
In so doing she downplays the importance of hate crimes against other groups. The glaring example being the holocaust.
Stupid and wrong. Labour's well rid of her but she could always stand as an independent.
She's claiming that only people with different skin color can experience racism, whereas other groups merely experience prejudice - presumably something she considers to be not as bad.
In so doing she downplays the importance of hate crimes against other groups. The glaring example being the holocaust.
Stupid and wrong. Labour's well rid of her but she could always stand as an independent.
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