Is It Time To Totally Dissasciate Ourselves From The Usa?

[youngmafbog]

Biden once again pokes his hooter in. Neither the UK nor the Irish need to be told what to do by a yank so but out Biden.

Time to stop being Americas lapdog I think.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12072615/Joe-Biden-says-Ireland-visit-ensure-UK-didnt-screw-Good-Friday-Agreement.html

[ToraToraTora]

It's the American people I feel for, what choice are they going to be presented with next time?

[ToraToraTora]

Well he did single handedly beat the black and tans!

[jno]

the IRA got huge funding from the US - citizens, not government - and it wasn't till Washington acted that this died away and the IRA were forced into talks. So Washington's influence has been benign.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2001/oct/28/northernireland.colombia

[Old_Geezer]

The only ones trying to screw around with the Belfast Agreement are the EU and apparently Biden himself. But it's well known that he gets confused and off subject. We ought not blame the whole nation just because they weren't given an option to vote for a decent leader. We in the UK are also familiar with that problem.

[ToraToraTora]

The way it's going in the EUSSR, Ireland are getting shafted big time, they'll be begging to join the UK in a few years.

[WSpa]

And please can we stop whingeing about the 'special relationship'.

[CoolBritannia]

"the IRA got huge funding from the US.."

Until 9/11, when the US experienced terrorism on their soil.

[youngmafbog]

TTT, the american people voted him in so they obviously agree with him (well the majority of voters) and so get what they deserve.

I think the last three years (and the Obama years) has shown the distain for the UK the US have. Time to cut ties to a simple friendly status before it gets out of hand and hostilities start.

All we need to do with them is a basic trade, no formal agreements or anything and certainly not following them into continual wars.

[jno]

no formal agreements

well, yes, but Britain will then be at a disadvantage as against anyone the US does have a formal agreement with. I'm with you on not joining in US wars, though; Wilson refused, but it did cost the country money.

[ichkeria]

No of course not.

Have you been drinking?
Listening to Corbyn, Abbott and co ? :-)

[CoolBritannia]

"the IRA got huge funding from the US.."

Until 9/11, when the US experienced terrorism on their soil.

Funding stopped overnight for the cowardly IRA (terrorist) after 9/11.

These cowards would never go toe-to-toe against British Paratroopers who shouldn't have been sent there, but it was necessary . The cowardly IRA was out of control

[ichkeria]

This is all very silly.
The article also is needlessly stirring things***. There’s still a tension with Britain when leading folk in the US promote their Irish roots, given the baggage associated with the past history.
Sensible people take it with a pinch of salt.

*** The Black and Tans weren’t just “hated by the IRA” of course

[ichkeria]

The IRA wasn’t funded by the US government.
It’s really rather important to bear that in mind.

[jno]

I did say that explicitly, ichkeria.

[retrocop]

Noraid and McDonalds spring immediately to mind. No doubt the Kennedys I should imagine especially old man Joe in the earlier years. He was no fan of the English.

[Old_Geezer]

We must also keep in mind that they didn't immediately stamp down on their citizens funding a terrorist organisation who were attacking a nation with whom the US were supposed to have a special relationship. 'Special' indeed.

[New Judge]

//…well, yes, but Britain will then be at a disadvantage as against anyone the US does have a formal agreement with.//

Who would that be then? The US does not have a formal trading agreement with the EU and is never likely to have one. The US has free trading agreements with 20 countries. The only significant countries (as far as the volume of their trade goes) it has agreements with are Australia, Canada, Mexico and South Korea. These are the only four in their top fifteen partners with whom they have agreements. The US is by far and away the UK’s top trading partner and we seem to do quite well without trading agreements.

[Atheist]

I don't think that disassociating ourselves from the USA is the issue. They want weak Russia and China and India and Europe. They don't give a hoot about us. R, C, I and USA want us to be weak, unless we can in some way give temporary help to their ambitions.

[tomus42]

I don't think it would be a great idea to disassociate ourselves from America having already done it from Europe, but I could be wrong. I'm sure we'll be fine on our own.

[fender62]

its only because america has a rotten president at the moment, and part irish to boot, malice towards britains past alive in the 21 century.
dont get it, what has ireland done for the world..rotten spuds and a vampire writer, guiness i you dont mind weak beer.