Keir Starmer Faces Serious Questions

[naomi24]

//Keir Starmer faces serious questions about his links with charities and lawyers who have campaigned to thwart our work to stop the boats// says Robert Jenrick, Minister for Immigration.

//Labour tried to block our Stop The Boats Act in Parliament, voting against it more than 80 times – and now their colleagues and pals are working to sabotage our plan in the courts. //

//Today we learn that a top lawyer who advised Labour on anti-racism policies is at the forefront of efforts to stop people being deported to Rwanda. //

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/23366140/keir-starmer-thwart-work-to-stop-deportations/

Trouble brewing for Mr Starmer?

[bobbinwales]

//We gave Rwanda the £120Million up front in April 2022 and 16 months later what have we got to show for it?

- Absolutely nothing.//

yes because you and others made sure it didnt happen... too afraid it might work.

[ynnafymmi]

Oh,come off it bob,this Rwanda scheme was never going to work.At present we are putting these boat people up in luxury hotels and paying them(i think)£9.58 a week for doing nothing when we could be utilising this unskilled workforce to be working and paying taxes into the system rather than taking out.

[Mozz71]

I don't usually agree with Ynna on political topics, but 20:04 is bang on. They're here, let's make them earn their keep. If workforces can't fill vacancies with British people, there's an untapped workforce waiting to be utilised.

[Hymie]

ynnafymmi – that’ll be down to Brexit then, but as all other ABers know, it has nothing to do with Brexit.

My employer (a FTSE100 company) will not employ EU residents who do not have the right to come and work in the UK (in their own right); and these are technical jobs with a reasonable level of pay.

The reason for this is that effectively the company is sponsoring them to come and work in the UK, which is more than just a piece of paper (work visa) and the company does not want the hassle, despite having vacancies which are hard to fill.

[douglas9401]

Aye that's the game, give illegal immigrants a job and a house while those wanting to come in legally still have to jump through hoops to do the right thing.

[ynnafymmi]

I ken whit ye mean,dougie.But it seems crazy to have this unskilled workforce in Britain,while companies such as mine are having to refuse orders because we dont have enough unskilled workers to fulfill these orders.We are paying these people when they could be paying us(through their taxes).Am i the only one who gets this?

[douglas9401]

It's not an unskilled labour force though, it's an invading army looking to cement a position by taking bleeding hearts and gullible saps for the ride of their lives.
You know, those fat people in loose clothing and oddly coloured hair who can be called upon to assemble at a moments notice to prevent evictions or deportations but can't work themselves because of some dreadful debilitating condition.

[bobbinwales]

Not often I agree with Douglas...but good point,well made

[ynnafymmi]

Aye,dougie,but whats your solution?These people are here now,at present they are taking out when they could be paying in.Processing seafood isnt a skilled occupation,the local Aberdonians dont seem to want this type of menial work.I am due to retire shortly,i could be training some of these people into some kind of meaningful occupation.

[douglas9401]

But
they
have
no
right
to
be
here.

Tak yer bunnet aff an' let the bee go free.

[ynnafymmi]

Aye,i ken that dougie....but at present they are taking instead of giving...until this crazy Rwanda scheme gets set up and running(never,probably),we should be asking these people to give rather than take.

[douglas9401]

See, this is why I couldn't be a counsellor.

[tomus42]

Starmer's clearly got alot to answer for.

He's not been in power for the last 13 years.. or actually ever, so he must be to blame for whatever it is that's wrong at the moment.

[ynnafymmi]

Perhaps its something to do with Brexit,tomus?Prior to Brexit the French cops did try to keep these people in France,but since Brexit it is now a case of"outta sight,outta mind"."Britain isnt in the EU anymore,why the hell should us French give a damn about the Brits anymore?".

[Hymie]

//Starmer's clearly got alot to answer for.

He's not been in power for the last 13 years.. or actually ever, so he must be to blame for whatever it is that's wrong at the moment.//

That is the current Tory mantra, and clearly believed by many ABers.

[Gromit]

BIW,
// because you and others made sure it didnt happen... too afraid it might work. //

Don’t be stupid. I am humbled that you thought I stopped this, but I didn’t. Parliamentarians stopped this because it was utterly bonkers, not cost effective, and doomed to failure.
Aimed at the gullible, easily pleased and idiot Government supporters. In 2 years time when we are rid of a 100 of 200,000 illegal immigrants, are we supposed to hail this cynal gimmick as a success ?
Well I won’t.

[bobbinwales]

But we dont know whether by getting rid of a few hundred we might deter thousands. It's easy to find reasons not to try something...usually arguing these are poor desperate people facing persecution even tho there in France which is safe. The critics aren't able to come up with a solution...they can just trot out...not my problem its up to the goverment but we'll oppose whatever they say

[ynnafymmi]

It does seem a bit crazy gromit.Up here in Aberdeen we have two luxury hotels filled with these boat people.My company is on the verge of closing down thanks to no skilled/unskilled staff.Meanwhile in these two luxury hotels.....

[jourdain2]

ynnaf 21.35 Not as I remember, t.b.h.. Pre-Brexit the French police never had any reason or grounds to try to stop any people in France from coming over to the UK. There was 'freedom of movement', remember. Nightmare.
After Brexit they were (and are) angry with us and are, shall we say 'lukewarm' in their efforts to fulfill the contract we took out with them (rather expensive) to stop the crossings.

The answer is, of course to be bold and take the initiative - but our politicians will never do that. Just keep ferrying the 'small-boaters' back to France - a perfectly safe country. Let them cope with them and see to their own borders.

There would be unpleasant scenes at first, but eventually money and enthusiasm would run out. It won't happen, though. All our governments are too squeamish and averse to standing up to be counted.

[Gromit]

Ynna,
As you know, these healthy workers are not allowed to take jobs (from locals) while they are going through their application process which takes several years.
It is as if the the whole process is designed to hurt the UK, and all designed in No.10 Westminster.