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LadyCG | 14:02 Fri 18th Aug 2023 | News
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^^^ to 15.52 .
Although technically she does not have a choice, the ultimate decision rests with the Prison who have produced her. Whilst the Judge can order her attendance, the prison may decide not to employ force to drag her into the dock.

Very often dragging someone in can be counter productive because they cause such disruption to the proceedings. All she needs to do is be dragged into the dock and start shouting or howling - at which point, all the Judge can do is order she be sent back down to her cell.
Must be a sociopath.
and if what you've read and heard about the managers CEO at The Chester isnt bad enough, when they did take some notice of "irreguIarities"

they shifted her into the risk and safety department...
Yes the boss and managers in that hospital need sorting out or sacked for the way they treated the people who were trying to report her and then threatened them. The hospital's top manager demanded the doctors write an apology to Letby and told them to stop making allegations against her or face consequences. The last bit was copied and pasted from TV report.
LadyB @ 15. 14pm //She can't be sane, surely???//
They must have thought so or else she would plead insanity
I hope she is put away for the rest of her life, just like Brady and Hindley, and like Brady, she might ask for isolation.
The Government has ordered an independent inquiry into how Letby was allowed to continue working on the unit after suspicions were first raised.
The Hospitals management (or lack of) have blood on their hands. Several attacks could have been prevented if they had acted diligently and promptly.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66547863
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It's shocking that no one who voiced their concerns were taken seriously.

I suppose a lot of the problem as to why she got away with it for so long is that she just doesn't look like she could harm a fly. It just goes to show that people are not what they seem.
// Babies would have survived if hospital executives had acted earlier on concerns about the nurse Lucy Letby, a senior doctor who raised the alarm has said. //

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/aug/18/lucy-letby-whistleblower-babies-would-have-survived-if-hospital-had-acted-sooner
and if what you've read and heard about the managers CEO at The Chester isnt bad enough, when they did take some notice of "irreguIarities".

three deaths a year ( v small) and thirteen in the Letby period - it is a time series - so when do you pull the plug ? I wd say some time before 13. 4 - too few, 9 too many....

Letby successfully pleaded that it wasnt her , it was 'them'. The medical staff, and they certainly didnt speak with one voice.




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I really, really hope she never gets released. It the only solace those poor parents are going to get.
they shifted her into the risk and safety department..
yeah but no one died - all they do is shuffle papers and cluck

Miss X ( nominally normal) accused me of doing something awful ( event X in place Y on date D) for which I cd be dismissed. yes it was that oops.
and it took ten days of tribunal time, before anyone said - Did you see PP do it? and got the answer: " I was there , PP was not there, and someone else did it"

They had a lot of fun in the ten days - £1000 of lost production a day? cost £10 000. No one on the tribunal had picked up that the other nine days worth of witnesses were just retelling stories they had heard.

Trump - who did not work in Chester - when the later lawyers said "and we have reports of boxes and boxes of fraudulent votes at this very moment ..."
The judge asked the lawyers" did you see all this?" ( and is this in your personal knowledge?)
and when they said no - threw the cases out.

"I suppose a lot of the problem as to why she got away with it for so long is that she just doesn't look like she could harm a fly. "

not the case....concerns had been raised for a good couple of years and the quote from either the CEO or senior manager (im looking but cant find it again for the link, story has moved)...he clearly and explicitly stated if this gets out (before the full extent of what she had done was known) it will look very bad for us and the hospital...he was more worried about the PR aspect and bad press than of the lives of the patients...
He and all the other managers that bullied and forced the consultants that raised serious concerns into silence and at every stage wanted it all hushed up and not mentioned should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law...
The matrix - which showed Lucy L was present is incredibly labour intensive

when we had a critical incident a - a few actually - and the matrix basically showed there was no tell-tale thread,

a senior nurse said - that was three weeks of my time, working 9-5.

Blimey Granada news this evg - has a good review
From the Independent.

/Letby has been remanded in custody to be sentenced on Monday, but the court was told she has said she will not attend court and does not wish to follow the hearing via video link from prison./

Why can she decide whether or not she will appear for sentencing?
"they shifted her into the risk and safety department..
yeah but no one died - all they do is shuffle papers and cluck"

im guessing the irony went over your head....
my advice would be to lay off the sauce...
This sounds like a case of munchausens syndrome by proxy, usually the childs mother but not by any means every time.
"they shifted her into the risk and safety department..
yeah but no one died - all they do is shuffle papers and cluck"

I'm guessing the irony went over your head....(yup)
my advice would be to lay off the sauce... ( hahahahaha Baz you so funny ! didnt finka dat!)

irony wd be greater if they had started dying in R+S

why dat den - asks Bazzie er ironically

Beverley Allitt the Grantham and Kesteven poisoner, did locum shifts, and guess what ( baz asks: what?) people started getting ill there. Dr Rowe ( same place) missed the report that the insulin in a death had no pro-insulin cleavage - so it had to be administered from outside. Did nothing, baby attacked and got fired.

Toronto poisonings ( very long time ago 1976 I think) they fired all the nursing staff - pavulon was being given - and when they ( the nurses that is! ) sued, they were told the Hospital defence wd be, that they were killing the patients !

Also toronto, I THINK, the TGH deaths stopped - - but they started in Alphaville - where one of the nurses had got a job !

I note that the hospitals where Lucy L did shifts are now reviewing their patients ( see above).

Yeah coming up again on a tv review, the mgt prevented the doctors from going to the police. They dont have the power to. I wonder if the 7 consultant had taken advice on this.

So keep up the stupid possy little remarks, Bazza
Roop - Muchhausen
now called FII - factitiously induced illness
reviewed here
https://bestpractice.bmj.com/topics/en-gb/695
but there is a pay wall
A nurse systematically killing off the babies in her care: some things seem hardly believable. But the mind is certainly a non-understood thing.

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