Singapore - The High Cost Of Owning A Car

[naomi24]

A certificate to own a car in Singapore now costs S$106,000.... and that's without the cost of the car.  A Singapore Dollar equates to about 60 pence.  The city-state introduced the 10-year certificate of entitlement (COE) system in 1990 as an anti-congestion measure.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67014420

 

Let's hope Mr Khan doesn't get wind of this scheme!

[retrocop]

Oh gawd. We'll be back to ox carts.

[ynnafymmi]

Probably like Khans scheme in London it is just another money-making scam.This time by the Singaporean authorities.

[barry1010]

Over £63k.  Bit steep

[youngmafbog]

It's effectively being done by the high cost of EV's we must all buy.

Once again the poorer in society have to pay, you wont see the Liberal elite giving up their multiple homes, private jets and multiple vehicles.

[barry1010]

The poorer in society will continue to buy older cars, as they always have done if they want a car.  Petrol and diesel cars will be on the road for decades and the cost of EVs devalue in the same way.  

[ToraToraTora]

I've often said that motoring is far too cheap. The masses can afford personal private transport? Madness! I think the Singapore solution has merit.

[youngmafbog]

Barry, you are assuming the fuel will be available in the quantites required plus that it will remain affrdable.  Newsflash -neither will be true.  

The poor will be driven off the road. If you are happy with that then say so, at least TTT is open with it.

[youngmafbog]

//The masses can afford personal private transport?//

Yes, and it has to be that way becasue there is no alternative and the Genie is out the bottle.

All this smacks of a return to feudalism with the liberal elite being the Lords and Masters ruing over the surfs.

Treat your poor badly at your own peril, treat them well and they will reward you and your country with hard work.

[naomi24]

TTT, are you serious?

[ToraToraTora]

YMB - yes my transport policy would need a vast improvement in public transport of course. You are correct at the moment, there is little alternative.

[ToraToraTora]

10:27, stand back and look at what we have. Millions of empty seats being transported in steel boxes at a cost so low that even those on benefits can afford it. Transport went seriously wrong somewhere. The Beeching vandalism for a start. Yes I am a socialist when it comes to transport!

[naomi24]

TTT, but you have a car.  If you feel so strongly about it why don't you use public transport and help fill those empty seats?

[Old_Geezer]

There'd be riots here. One wonders about emigration trends from Singapore since that was introduced, or are they all too cowed to do anything ?

[youngmafbog]

TTT does actually raise a good point, but I am still not convinced the poor should be made to pay for liberal virtue signalling.

As for the empty seats, yes but otherwise you have to have muliple cars.  Take for instance us, one of our cars was a SLK(2 seats) but when the grandchildren came along we needed to transport them sometimes over longish distances so we changed it for a Jag.  The Jag does drive around with 3 empty seats but it uses no more room than the 2 seater car and its fuel consumption is far better (and its faster).

 

[youngmafbog]

Naoimi I think TTT is referring to empty seats in cars not scum scoops.

[ToraToraTora]

Naomi: "TTT, but you have a car.  If you feel so strongly about it why don't you use public transport and help fill those empty seats?" - because I ain't Greta Funbird, I'm looking at it pragmatically. Like her sailing across the Atlantic rather than flying, if I dispensed with the jam jar it would make no difference. I do use public transport a lot anyway and if Singapore style charges came in I may well decide to pay them and still be a motorist. I'm just observing the current state of transport pragmatically.

[barry1010]

Young, by the time petrol and diesel gets to that point used EVs will be affordable for the masses that can afford to drive bangers now.  

 

 

[youngmafbog]

//used EVs will be affordable for the masses that can afford to drive bangers now. //

If you believe that then I have a bridge to sell you.

Old EV's will be cheap becasue the batteries have no life left in them and require replacing.  Do you serioulsy think poor people can afford that?

The poor will never get to the point of affording an EV unless the design changes radically (which hopefully it will but no sign of yet). And even if they can afford it how will they charge them?  Have you ever lived in a row of terrace houses with no yard and no front garden?  There is nowhere to put all the bins let alone a charger.

[naomi24]

TTT, //if I dispensed with the jam jar it would make no difference. //

 

But that's you.  What about me?  I live in the middle of the countryside - I can see just two houses from my home - there is no public transport - not even a pavement or a street light.  There is no way I could manage without transport so what do I do under your scheme? 

[youngmafbog]

And what about those who have manual work they must take their tools to? Many of those people do not earn big bucks.

Should they get on the bus with a bag of cement and a shovel in a wheelbarrow?

Like I said above the genie is out the bottle, you cant just take it away from people.  There will eventually be riots.