Is It A British Thing To Equate Israel With Hamas?

[Kardashev]

Surely anyone can see that Israel was attacked and is retaliating. Yet I see on some of the British news outlets lots examples of people who seem to support the terrorists of Hamas even though they appear to have started the whole thing and committed unimaginable horrors. I don't get it.

[Deskdiary]

I do believe them.

The thing that's getting up my nose is many people trying (unsuccessfully) to draw a moral equivalency.

Unless Israel purposely target civilians with an intent to only kill civilians in the manner Hamas disgustingly did, which Israel will not do, there most certainly is no moral equivalency.

[Untitled]

"people may be prevented from leaving the area is because Israel doesn't know who Hamas is or who among the civilian population is working for them?  "

yes it has... and for that reason egypt shares culpability in the genocide that is currently being unleashed on gazans. but this fact does entitle israel to commit mass killing.

[naomi24]

untitled, You would be happy to open the borders to terrorists?  What about the safety of Israeli or Egyptian civilians?  Don't they matter?

[Untitled]

of course they do naomi. but there is no defence for keeping 2 million people locked in place while you bomb them to death and deprive them of food and water. that's not war that's murder.

[Kardashev]

Very good answer from hazi-hammenuhoth. 

[Kardashev]

22:46, I'm thinking it's less a British thing and more of a political persuasion thing. I am struggling with how anyone thinks there is any sort of equivalence between the two sides though.

[naomi24]

But they don't matter to you, untitled, because you would allow potential terrorists to live among them.  

[Untitled]

and gazans don't matter to you naomi because they are muslims

[naomi24]

I'll overlook the insult - for now - and so you why you've said that?

[naomi24]

*ask* 

[ToraToraTora]

untitled: "and gazans don't matter to you naomi because they are muslims" - well I think that's a bit nasty but really you should be asking why they don't seem to matter to Hamas. Idiots the world over are wringing their hands over Israel when they seem to be quite happy that Hamas are putting arms in Schools and hospitals, gun implacements in school playgrounds etc, Hamas seem quite happy to use the gazans as human sheilds but Israel are the bad guys! right oh!

[royfromaus]

Untitled

and gazans don't matter to you naomi because they are muslims

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Maybe this conflict only matters to you because it involves Jews?

[naomi24]

Untitled doesn't seem to realise that Egyptians are Muslim too - and I don't want terrorists roaming free in Egypt either.  Huge logic fail there, untitled.

[Untitled]

" ask so you why you've said that?"

because of how you write about them. 

[naomi24]

And the Egyptians?  They're Muslim too.  Why do I want them protected from terrorists?

[Deskdiary]

Royfromaus at 2.45 -  nail and head.

[ToraToraTora]

TBF untitled is a bit misguided, not the bad guy, not like sandyRoe who calls Hamas "Freedom fighters".

[Deskdiary]

sandyRoe should be banned from this site. His overt support of proscribed terrorist organisation, an organisation. That that conducted disgusting acts on innocent people, is a disgrace. AB is failing members by not banning him, and his pathetic argument that it's free speech is equally disgusting.

If I argued free speech that shagging children is OK I'd expect to be banned. Not banning  sandyRoe for his disgusting view shames AB. 

[royfromaus]

There's a mod on here who openly wants Israel wiped of the map.