You Doubted The Attrocities.....

[ToraToraTora]

https://news.sky.com/story/israel-hamas-war-mutilated-charred-remains-bear-witness-to-the-extreme-barbarity-of-militant-attack-13001153

I assume you'll dismiss this from sky but there were beheaded children: "From a beheaded child to a man who was shot, stabbed, burned and then run over, a dedicated forensics team is confronted with the horrendous, stomach-churning injuries inflicted by the insurgents, as they work to identify the Israeli dead and bring closure to their families."

[Mozz71]

True Spungle, but not everyone critical of Israel is an antisemite, as has been suggested over the last month.

[Countrylover]

Actually Mozz, it was the mod that was openly on the thread that wound me up more by not taking any action yet again.

[Stableford]

There are no Site Rules broken by either the title, or the original post. 

[Mozz71]

I can understand that Lottie, especially since the secretmod had to step in to act where they didn't.

[Countrylover]

If I remember rightly my first comment on any of these  threads was that I had suspected for ages that what  happened on 7 October would happen at some point . From then onwards, I got  called jew hater,  anti semitic and of approving  of beheading babies.  

[Rosetta]

But the secretmod has not deleted this thread.

Once again this thread is being hijacked to take a pop at naomi, who isnt the only mod to let this thread run, but the others hide behind their anonymity

[Mozz71]

Nobody wanted the thread closing Rosetta, I'm sure if Naomi had wanted that done, she would've requested it herself.

[naomi24]

Thank you, Rosetta.  Much appreciated.

[ToraToraTora]

Wow, I go to lunch and I have over 80 posts! I only named names because I was asked to do so. The people concerned know who they are.

[Peter Pedant]

Naomi is a living saintess

[ToraToraTora]

mozz: "I've stopped believing anything that comes from the mouths of either Hamas in Gaza or the Israeli government." - what about the content of the video?

[Stableford]

Seems the truth isn't popular, TTT.

[Peter Pedant]

I only named names because it was my dreadful and unpleasant duty to name the guilty and see them punished. 

( It was higher thana duty - it had become a pleasure - Oscar Wilde) 

[ToraToraTora]

Mozz: " Sure, Hamas started this war on Oct 7th with their cowardly attack on innocents, but it was hardly unprovoked. " - So that justifies attrocities that even the Nazis didn't do? You lefties just can't accept that eveything that has hapenned was started by Hamas, your hatred of Israel prevents any reasoning.

[ToraToraTora]

So does everyone regardless of their view now accept that these attrocities took place?

[Khandro]

 I don’t believe in collective punishment, but war is collective punishment. War is one giant infliction of collateral damage. People die who don’t deserve to. Houses collapse whose owners fiercely opposed whatever sparked the conflict. War is the bluntest of instruments, which is what makes it so awful and why, Hamas, you don’t start one when you don’t need to.

 When Hamas decided to pour into Israel on the morning of October 7th and murder, rape, mutilate and kidnap every Jew they could get their hands on, what did they think was going to happen?

[Mozz71]

Oh Tora, you never change do you? I condemned Hamas multiple times in my post. I never claimed that their attack was justified, I called it cowardly and called them animals. All I said was that the Israeli leadership aren't exactly saints either. I know you like to see things in absolutes, but things are not always as black and white as you say.

[Mozz71]

//So does everyone regardless of their view now accept that these attrocities took place?//

Did anybody deny such a thing?

[ToraToraTora]

I primarily asked this question because the anti Israel types and tacit apologists thought the reports of the attrocities where propaganda and tried to ridicule me. I hope they now accept the truth.

[ToraToraTora]

Mozz: "Did anybody deny such a thing?" - yes in several posts, the one that calls them freedom fighters did his best to dismiss them as propaganda and I was apparently gullible in believing them.