Mood In Conservative Party Bleak

[Roobaba]

Mood in Conservative Party bleak after Jenrick's resignation
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67644952

So things are not looking too good then..?

[ToraToraTora]

It's ok because labour is transforming itself into Tory lite as we speak.

[Ellipsis]

The entire lot of them - all in the Commons and the Lords - have lost the plot. Lightweights.

[ichkeria]

It sounds as though even Tora has abandonded them :-)

I was listening to David Campbell-Bannerman strongly suggested, vowed, even, that even if Sunak survived a confidence vote then letters of no confidence in the leader would follow.

The problem of course if that Sunak has staked his govenment's reputataion on an immigration poilicy that even its orginal foremost supports are now pointing out will not work. He is doomed to fail in this.

[gulliver1]

Hope this resignation brings on more  resignations like it did for Boris . To add to the slippery slope the Tories are sliding down for the GE.

[ToraToraTora]

I won't pretend I'm happy with the party at the moment but I haven't abandonned them. The alternative is far worse. Can you imagine Capt Hindsight and Shazza running the country?

[ichkeria]

Rwanda was idiocy from the start: the original idea was that tens of thousands would be deported to this African country, which is even less well-equipped to deal with it than the UK is. Then as reality dawned the numbers were scaled back. But the mantra of "stop the boats" grew, the idea being that the policy would automatically act as a deterrent, when there can be no obvious indication that that would be the case. We now have a treaty which theoretically involved the exchange of each country's illegal migrants, which goes against a supreme court ruling, and will not stop legal challenges to individual deportations. And yet they plough on because a) the parrty and government are in hock to a populist slogan, and b) they have no back-up plan.

[ichkeria]

It's Brexit, ironically, which has wrecked the Conservartive party. It threatened to do it at those European elections, where the party got something like 9% of the vote, but  what id happening now is different. Of course the party will revive, but it may take a fair while. It's easy to forget that most Labour voters probably backed us staying in the EU (just not the ones that mattered most). My hope is the a Labour government would return us to the customs union, something which has broad support among the electorate now, and which would solve the issue in N Ireland.

[gulliver1]

09.44 You will have to vote Labour then TTT.🤣

[Khandro]

Great speech by Suella, watch in here:

[naomi24]

//It's Brexit, ironically, which has wrecked the Conservartive party. //

 

I disagree.  It's their mishandling of it by getting rid of Boris in the beginning and their continued in-fighting that's wrecked the party.  If they don't trust one another how can they expect the electorate to trust any of them?  Fools all.

[Peter Pedant]

Miss - to any passing mod - can you make TTT refer to people by  their proper names ? we dont by reason of deep respect refer to him as Trolling Tory Tw+T EVER now do we? Fair's fair

WHO is shazza for chrissakes

or throw the whole thread on the grounds of um-mimsiness

I agree in Boris Speak, that the current govt is under some difficult -

Boris lies again part deux on the Beeb as we speak

 

[Peter Pedant]

 It's their mishandling of it by getting rid of Boris in the beginning ]

boris the saint is on teevee as we speak - can a saint have a dirty face- well he does

[ToraToraTora]

PP the master of encrypted BS has a complaint about not getting one word! Perlease.

[naomi24]

He gets it.

[youngmafbog]

//It's Brexit, ironically, which has wrecked the Conservartive party. //

Well not entirely but yes it has played its part, although there are many factors to it.  Bottom line is there are too many liberal TINO remainers that have not allowed a proper Brxit, something a fair few on here have said for years.

Personally, as I sated a while back, I will be glad of the collapse of this load of WEF saps.  The Conservatives can  then kick them into touch and bring the Party back to proper conservative values.  I may even rejoin!

[ToraToraTora]

The party has always been split on Europe. Same as labour has always been split on anti semitism and marxism.

[nicebloke1]

Tommy Cooper as got to make the wine bottles disappear at todays performance.

Just like that. Great Avatar TTT

[Canary42]

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Politics/Question1856818.html       

 

[Deskdiary]

I've voted Tory at every GE since I've been old enough to vote, but for a variety of reasons I will not be doing so next time.

This doesn't mean I'll be voting Labour (I'm not nuts) I just won't be voting. Mind you, me not voting Tory is not likely to make a difference where I live, as a piece of cheese with a blue rossette will win. Since the creation of the constituency in 1974 it has always been Tory held and they currently have a majority of 15,000 out of the last turn-out of 50,000.

[Khandro]

DD. Reform UK ? don't give your non-vote to Starmer.