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New Brexit Benefit – Shellfish Beds Found In The Thames Estuary
Some youtube channels falsely claim that blue passports are the only benefit, but those who read my posts on this topic will know there is a whole lot more.
Here is another to add to my list, which includes imperial signage distances in the Dartford Tunnel and champagne in pint bottles (plus many others).
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Well I've heard a lot of poppycock from these ruddy idiots but this is mental, and she does look mental.
What they fail to tell you is that many of the fishermen round our coasts have gone out of business since Brexit, why you may ask, because 90% of all the shell fish caught round our coasts crabs lobsters you name it whatever were exported, not any longer. The trawlers / small boats are just sitting in the harbours falling to bits because theres no market left to export too. The British public eat very little shell fish because its to dam expensive, so no market here either. What little we do eat here is just not worth the skipper of those boats to put to sea, it wouldn't even cover the fuel never mind make any money.
“…90% of all the shell fish caught round our coasts crabs lobsters you name it whatever were exported, not any longer.”
"The British public eat very little shell fish because its to dam expensive, so no market here either. What little we do eat here is just not worth the skipper of those boats to put to sea, it wouldn't even cover the fuel never mind make any money."
That doesn’t seem to quite hang together, nb.
Presumably your contention is that the shellfish caught in UK waters were previously sold to the EU (if they were sold elsewhere, Brexit would have made no difference). So where in the EU are shoppers so much more affluent that they can afford to buy the said shellfish, whereas shoppers in the UK could not afford them? Of course, if sold here the products would not be so expensive as in the EU as the cost of distibuting them in the UK would be considerably less than carting them across the Channel.
Or do you mean (as I suspect you do) that insufficient people in the UK eat shellfish either because they simply can’t be bothered to or they don’t like them?
Either way, it doesn’t matter because we are where we are. But as well as championing Brexit as the cause, you have to ask yourself what on Earth the EU is doing by restricting imports of shellfish to its members (particularly France and Spain) from the UK.This is causing EU consumers (particularly French restaurants) considerable trouble. But ideology always trumps pragmatism in the EU.
To take mussels as an example, mussel farmers have been unable to sell their produce to the EU since Brexit. This is because the EU only allows the import of live mussels from non-EU countries if they are grown in a certain standard of water quality. Britain's water quality was good enough for the EU when we were still a part of the bloc, but is no longer considered good enough now, as a non-EU country. So, at 23:00 GMT on 31 January 2020, the UK’s waters, which had been of perfectly good quality until then, suddenly became no longer good enough. This is despite, of course, those surrounding France – in places little more than twenty miles away – being deemed perfectly good.
" …and as the narrator says, the shellfish are probably not fit for human consumption given the amount a raw sewage being pumped into the Thames.”
Instead of making unfounded assumptions (many of which are incorrect) the narrator would do better to undertake some basic research. The reason UK shellfish cannot be sold live in the EU has nothing to do with the Thames Estuary or any raw sewage that may or may not be pumped into it. The reason is that the EU refuses to recognise the UK’s coastal water assessment process (which it had done, perfectly happily, up to January 2020) for no particular reason at all. UK shellfish fishing and farming is held to some of the strictest standards in Europe (far stricter than in France, for example). That is why there is such demand for the products in EU countries. It hasn’t suddenly become unsafe and, instead of insisting on “veterinary inspections” of live shellfish the EU would do better to inspect the UK’s waters and its testing systems if they are in any doubt about their suitability. But that would not suit their narrative.
I do agree, however, that the Rt. Hon. Lady in the clip did sound somewhat ridiculous when she claimed that the discovery of shellfish beds in the Thames Estuary were a “Brexit Bonus”. Like many things claimed to be as a result of Brexit, this was similarly false.
@14.41.As you say NJ there is little market for shellfish such as scallops or mussels in the UK,but a big demand in Spain,Portugal,Southern France.Brexit certainly did not do my company any favours.But things are as they are,and our Iberian friends have came back to us again.As for shellfish found in the Thames...yeuch.
It has become apparent to me that some people (not remoners) think that my list of Brexit benefits is some sort of joke – I can assure you that it is not, with each one being extolled by persons of stature no less than the Prime Minister (for many of those on the list), government ministers, MPs and other prominent Brexiteers.
The current list below is in no particular order, but given that being able to buy pint bottles of champagne was a prominent Brexit benefit news story in the Daily Mail (running over at least 2 days), I have elevated this to third place.
- Blue passports
- The Crown Mark on pub glasses
- Being able to buy champagne in pint bottles, rather than 750ml (1.3 pints)
- Mobile phone companies able to make roaming charges
(when using your phone in mainland Europe)
- Killing our honey-bees with EU banned pesticides
- Not having to insure ride-on lawnmowers (and other self-powered vehicles) used on private land
- Signage within Dartford tunnel spaced at yardage distances (in round numbers)
- The freedom to release as much raw sewage as we like into our rivers and coastal waters (and doing so), without fear of being prosecuted by the European Commission
- Un-capped bonuses permitted to be paid to our bankers
- Not having to declare millions of pounds you have in secret off-shore tax havens
- Shellfish beds found In the Thames estuary
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Mobile phone companies able to make roaming charges
(when using your phone in mainland Europe)
I was in tenerife in december and paid no roaming charges
Our nearest seaside town is Filey (Yorkshire coast) which was once a thriving fishing town. Now the last fishmonger has closed down (and I happen to know that he bought a lot of his stock from a local Morrison's) and just a bit of crabbing goes on.
Transport links arenot good. I volunteered at the local Academy - majority of kids see no real future. Once they would have gone into fishing and some of the thriving businesses it supported. Joining the EU made the fishermen destroy their boats.
I was in town the day after the Referendum result - it was bjuzzing, people were so happy. They wanted their old life, fishing-boats, chance to work and prosperity back.
Now they are depressed again - but they know also that they haven't a hope of that if we rejoined the EU.
Our Government has failed completely to see Brexit through - but it is known that it would be worse, with no hope at all, if we rejoined.
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