The Battle To Save The West

[naomi24]

Following a foiled plot by the Palestine Action group to shut down London's Stock Exchange, journalist Stephen Pollard writes:

 

https://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/1856009/west-battle-enemy-stephen-pollard

 

Perceptive, honest -  and chillingly accurate.

[naomi24]

You're on no one's side and yet you have nothing but criticism for Israelm untitled.  I'm trying to work that one out.

[ichkeria]

//On Saturday, though, there was a new chant: “Yemen, Yemen, make us proud, turn another ship around” – a reference to the Houthis’ attacks on shipping in the Red Sea//

Indeed: which is particularly idiotic as "Yemen" is not the target politically,but rather the rebels, even if they control much of the country.

[royfromaus]

Untitled

when and where did this happen? how many people were chanting it? is there a recording?

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Strewth.

 

[Untitled]

i don't have "nothing but criticism for israel"! there are lots of things i like about israel! i do however think that their government is committing genocidal acts and war crimes in gaza and i think that needs to be opposed... precisely because of the "western values" we all hold dear. it really is not complicated. if you're willing to just let countries aligned with the west do whatever they want - up to and including mass murder - then what is the point of the west?

[naomi24]

Have you been on any more pro-Palestine marches, untitled? 

[ichkeria]

I'm not happy with a lot of the things Israel does either but the "genocide" if we want to bandy terms, is coming from the other side: Gaza had become a terrorist factory. It is a tragedy that its people have suffered so much, but Hamas are at least as much to blame for that.

[Untitled]

the fact that hamas has committed genocidal acts (and it has) does not mean that israel has not.

[Untitled]

"Have you been on any more pro-Palestine marches, untitled?"

not since before christmas naomi

[naomi24]

This isn't about the rights and wrongs of that - it's about what is happening here - something that has been happening for a long time and has now been brought to a head by the conflict in the Middle East.  These protesters - most of whom, as Stephen Pollard points out, aren't Muslim, are calling for jihad, massacres and victory for Islam in this country - and that should scare the bejabbers out of everyone - even you, untitled.

[ichkeria]

"the fact that hamas has committed genocidal acts (and it has) does not mean that israel has not."

That sentence makes no sense: genocide isn't "acts" it's a policy. Hamas and their sponsors want to destroy Israel: they are quite open about that. Israel wants to destroy Hamas: whether they are going too far and whether they will succeed is another matter. Ukraine can fight genocide without harming civilians. Israel sadly can't 

[Untitled]

"genocide isn't "acts" it's a policy"

i think this is a rather foolish idea because it means that you can't be committing genocide if you don't say you're doing it... but regardless israeli ministers have gone much much further than saying they want to eliminate only hamas. 

[youngmafbog]

Communists always have wierd points of view.

Pollard is bang on here.

Governments have been allowing our enemies in by the boatload but the right-on left just dont get it. Well one day it will come to a head and I bet all the keyboard warriors will be bricking it and hiding in mummy's loft rather than stand up for the country they are in.

[naomi24]

//right-on left just dont get it.//

 

And they're still not listening.

[youngmafbog]

They wont until their door is being kicked down Naomi, as you can see from here.

[naomi24]

I think you're right, ymb.  They'll wake up when it's too late.

[ToraToraTora]

It's 1932 again. TGM was warning about Germain re-arming. It could have been stopped by a minor action with UK and France. Later in 1936, same thing we could have stopped Hitler taking the Rhineland. So desperate for peace were the lefties they appeased until even they could appease no more. By then, too late WWII was innevitable. The same is hapenning with Islam, the world establishment of the world caliphate is well under way. Will be learn from history and wake up in time? I doubt it.

[Peter Pedant]

The plot is a perfect illustration of the wider moral inversion which has taken hold of so many who think of themselves as “progressive”, and which shows why the battle Israel is now fighting against Hamas matters to everyone.

are you sure the men in Palestine Free can spell stock exchange? Anyway it is electronic. and  they have a Plan if the electronic stocks go down ( because the backing program is a load of utter ***) sorry enemy attack. That is after the initial reacxtion - there is absolutely nothing wrong with  the  stock exchange - it has been tested on numerous times

Yesterday Times - policeman says "Prevent anti terror program ( which I have been subjected to actually) is a load of old b+llox and is directed at the wrong  threat"

lost hid job.

I wrote to Mark Rowley ( good old Sir Mark!) with that fifteen years ago and he was good enough to email back " no it isnt". I cruelly ridiculed him by misquoting " No, I have asked my mother and she says it isnt" on  numerous occasions

[Peter Pedant]

It's 1932 again. this was where Stanley Baldwin (" very little is important and almost nothing is very important" hem hem) refused to re arm and this was so popular with the er people that he was voted bac k in office

 Later on, in The Men who were Blamed, Baldwin was accused of putting party ( no arms, re elect me) before country

the revisionist pendule is swinging back

[Peter Pedant]

I'm trying to work that one out.

well think  on, and tell us when you have decided.

[tomus42]

Assuming there is a battle, does anyone have any suggestions on how it might be won?