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Support For The Uk To Re-Join The Eu (With Adopting The Euro)
Of course, we won’t be negotiating to rejoin until the nutters in the Tory party come to their senses and admit what a disaster Brexit is for the UK, and decide that they would like to get elected as a government, ditching their anti-EU stance.
As my mate Phil explains, 48% would vote to re-join if we had to adopt the Euro – how long before that figure becomes the majority; with 63% wanting to rejoin (without it being specified whether we adopt the Euro).
Not good news for the Brexiteers.
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on the day of the vote I was sure the remoaners would win and I did have a moan but I was prepared to accept the choice. Here is my post on the evening:
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Hymie and co have been moaning ever since, have the good grace to accept democracy.
I don't believe Brexit was ever divided down party lines.
The entire country saw an opportunity to escape the tyranny and increasing stranglehold of European bureuacracts who had long since stopped pretending to conceal their contempt, either for the British politicians and media they routinely sneered at on a daily basis, or the British people, whom they clearly saw as an inferior part of their federal state, to be manipulated and conned as they saw fit.
David Cameron, blind to the feelings of the electorate to a degree that was breathtaking, even for the Conservatives, arrogantly took for granted the national support for his narrow-minded crony-pleasing set-up, and got his behind royally kicked for his trouble, whereupon he promptly picked up his ball and went home.
The fact that a large swathe of Labour voters also voted to leave the EU was based, not on party alliegences, or a similarity in political thinking, merely the same simple grasp of a British dog being wagged by a nasty,condescending, venal, exploititive, and utterly irredeemable tail.
The rest is literally history.
But I would question why anyone would seriously want to consider re-linking with a federalist state that is slowly but surely imploding before our eyes.
A vote isn't taken to be valid for a short time. There may be exceptions when something has to be revisited but since Brexit has been as successful as it has so far, clearly no rational call for a re-vote can be made for decades yet. But in the meanwhile the citizens need to stop bad mouthing our nation, and get behind moving forward. At the same time we need to find politicians willing to stop agreeing to awful negotiation results and start putting this nation first, probably starting with renegotiating the idiotic internal border idea rather than fiddling around to get weak politicians to accept it.
Quite honestly this continual harping on about undoing the best move we've made is at best unpatriotic, and worse if we were willing to call a spade a spade. The stirring needs to stop and acceptance of our chosen route supported.
@15.32.You have to remember 3T,a lot of peoples jobs were on the line thanks to Brexit,including mine.My boss had to spend about £100,000 on a Spanish office just so we could keep on exporting our stuff to Europe.Without our boss splashing his cash,me and about one hundred other workers would be on the dole right now.Angry with you Tory and SNP Brexiteers,aye im angry.
15:52 doesn't matter what we say you've been brainwashed by the constant 5C cherry picked stats which miss the main point entirely. The stats are irrelevant to why people voted to leave. There is no real way to assign cause and effect anyway as the world has been gripped by various crises sinc we left that render all the stats meaningless or at least unattributable. Why people voted for brexit is explained expertly by Andy above(15:36) but that can be summarised into one word "sovereignty".
“My boss had to spend about £100,000 on a Spanish office just so we could keep on exporting our stuff to Europe.”
Which demonstrates perfectly the utter contempt the EU holds for anybody not in their club, especially one who was and had the temerity to leave.
Just what difference does your company having an office in Spain make to the quality and safety of the food you export? Answer: absolutely none whatsoever. But so hidebound is the EU by its regulatory regime, that the only way your company could continue to run its business successfully was to do something that was completely unnecessary and serves no purpose whatsoever. Your company’s stuff is still sourced and processed in exactly the same way and is not influenced in the slightest by the boss having a phone, a bog and a light bulb in Spain.
Your business has survived – and will thrive – despite the best efforts of the Euromaniacs to balls it up. They run a protectionist regime that protects its members from everybody else – even each other – and they place as many obstacles in the way of outsiders as they can. It is not the way to encourage global business. The best thing your boss can do when in the Spanish office is to explore ways of exporting your stuff elsewhere, where markets are growing, and leave the EU to its steady but inexorable decline.
"Anyone on AB benefited from Brexit?"
Yes I have. It has removed a festering sore that had irritated me increasingly for more than a quarter of a century. One which made me want to puke every time I saw EU panjandrums appearing on UK televisions, telling the British people what’s good for them and what they will impose on them next, and our gutless politicians (of all persuasions) nodding meekly in agreement.
Laid alongside your boss’s need to open an office in Spain for no purpose whatsoever, other than to satisfy the "regulations" those people have unilaterally imposed on an entire Continent, I'm afraid there’s no contest.
i regret enormously that this country left the european union and consider the 2016 vote to be a very foolish mistake... i did not protest against it in the period afterwards but i admire those who did. the "debate" about leaving was acrimonious nasty and unnecessary... it did huge harm to this country as did the years of lying and backtracking undertaken by several tory governments afterwards...
sadly the fight is over... we lost. i am skeptical about the survey but even if it is true i am not convinced that going through all that again is in this country's best interests... we are a very divided society right now and we absolutely do not want to end up like the USA. the country desperately needs time to heal and time to come together... it is a good idea perhaps to revisit the issue in the future once the "vote leave" generation is no longer with us but until then our society needs time to recover
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